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  • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

    Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

    nathanking@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #150

    @dlakelan Pepperidge Farm remembers when the web was for sharing useful information and had no corporations or ads. Pepperidge Farm is now owned by Campbell's.

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    • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

      Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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      #151

      @dlakelan Nailed it!

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      • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

        Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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        #152

        @dlakelan

        I've seen people under 30 here!

        They may all be corporate hating anarchists though.

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        • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

          Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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          #153

          @dlakelan @d_rift to be fair I don’t regret building the web. I regret building all its parasitic industries that promised to be symbiotic.

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          • aoanla@hachyderm.ioA aoanla@hachyderm.io

            @pteryx @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan yeah, it is very difficult to have this conversation with people (especially when you know they just migrated away from Facebook... and can't see the pattern here)

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            #154

            @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
            I'm starting to suspect that the vast majority of people *didn't notice* that for about a decade and a half there, the Net was a public space primarily about things that *weren't* corporate.

            (Before that it was more restricted-access, after that it had been captured.)

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            • randomgeek@masto.hackers.townR randomgeek@masto.hackers.town

              @dlakelan @d_rift to be fair I don’t regret building the web. I regret building all its parasitic industries that promised to be symbiotic.

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              #155

              @randomgeek @dlakelan in an SF accent, "trust us bro" rhymes with "symbiot", so I guess the con was there all along, but. Yeah, same.

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              • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                I'm starting to suspect that the vast majority of people *didn't notice* that for about a decade and a half there, the Net was a public space primarily about things that *weren't* corporate.

                (Before that it was more restricted-access, after that it had been captured.)

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                #156

                @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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                • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                  @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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                  #157

                  @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
                  It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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                  • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                    @dlakelan There isn't a "big mood" style of expression big enough to express the size of the mood I'm currently experiencing from your toot.

                    This was all a mistake. We should go back to disconnected BBSes. Or maybe ditch all the digital stuff and return to encyclopedias.

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                    #158

                    @douglasvb @dlakelan YES

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                    • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                      @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
                      It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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                      #159

                      @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan same!!!

                      I am STILL friends with people I met online in the early days of the Internet and I've met about 75% of them in person at least once!

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                      • maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM maryaustinbooks@mstdn.social

                        @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                        I want to cry when I think about the blog and lolcat glory days of the 2000s.

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                        #160

                        @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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                        • rothko@beige.partyR rothko@beige.party

                          @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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                          #161

                          @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                          At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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                          • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                            Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                            #162

                            @dlakelan I think we're all here.

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                            • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                              @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                              At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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                              #163

                              @pteryx @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I met so many good people on ElJay. It was a tragedy when it went bad and then got sold to Russia.

                              Remember dead journal? A few friends went over there for a while. What ever happened to that platform?

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                              • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                                @MamaLake @dlakelan it never really went away, technically. People just stopped paying attention

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                                #164

                                @fluffykittycat @MamaLake @dlakelan
                                It's hard to "pay attention" to what's been claimed by link rot, pulled behind paywalls or login-walls, moved to Discord for a false sense of "safety", deleted out of fear of being scraped by "AI" crawlers, DDoSed by "AI" scrapers, downranked by search engines (yes, I know about Marginalia Search), and/or buried in piles of SEO slop counterfeit pages.

                                It used to be trivial to *find new non-corporate webpages*.

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                                • aleksimanninen@cyberplace.socialA aleksimanninen@cyberplace.social

                                  @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan and with https://marginalia-search.com/ you can find it again. It's so beautiful and strange to see the old web again

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                                  #165

                                  @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan Marginalia Search is cool! One of its paradoxes is that it appears to respect sites that reject crawlers and bots (ex: jwz.org) -- so many traditional websites that are still actively maintained may be opaque to it, as their admins try to stem the bot onslaught.

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                                    #166

                                    RE: https://dice.camp/@pteryx/117368247487117847

                                    @joshisanonymous @dlakelan
                                    That's part of it, but not all of it. Other parts are more active poisoning, or entropy outstripping the ability to rebuild.

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                                    • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                      Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                      #167

                                      @dlakelan I cofounded an ISP in 1996. I am really sorry.

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                                      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                        @douglasvb @dlakelan
                                        Campfires

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                                        #168

                                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @douglasvb @dlakelan

                                        & stone tablets

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                                        • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                                          @pteryx @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I met so many good people on ElJay. It was a tragedy when it went bad and then got sold to Russia.

                                          Remember dead journal? A few friends went over there for a while. What ever happened to that platform?

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                                          #169

                                          @douglasvb @pteryx @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan i dunno about deadjournal; i ported everything to dreamwidth before deleting my LJ. early adopter, 4-digit user number.... but yeah. russia was the last straw.

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