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  3. I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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  • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

    @michelestrider My wife asked me something about Burning Man and I said I hadn't given it any thought since I was reading Mondo 2000.

    Which is not actually true, because I always enjoy the Black Rock Radio broadcasts from Soma FM.

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    #8

    @linuxandyarn I haven't listened to Black Rock Radio in years. I should, but usually just go between Groove Salad and Lush.

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    • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

      I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

      maybe_mbk@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #9

      @michelestrider

      When you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change. The devil changes you. (queue the gabber music)

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      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

        drhyde@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #10

        @michelestrider the impression I got in the late 90s was that it went to hell a year or two after whoever was saying it had gone to hell had first been.

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        • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

          I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

          drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #11

          @michelestrider May I quote you on that?

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          • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

            @michelestrider My wife asked me something about Burning Man and I said I hadn't given it any thought since I was reading Mondo 2000.

            Which is not actually true, because I always enjoy the Black Rock Radio broadcasts from Soma FM.

            drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #12

            @linuxandyarn @michelestrider One of my high school teachers was a burner.

            I wonder what he thinks of it now.

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            • australopithecus@mastodon.socialA australopithecus@mastodon.social

              @michelestrider
              Yep. Followed the same trajectory as the gentrification of trendy neighborhoods:
              • young artists do cool stuff
              • young people doing cool stuff attracts attention
              • attention attracts money
              • young artists are priced out
              • money chases money
              • eventually billionaires arrive, ruining whatever's left

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              #13

              @australopithecus @michelestrider oh yeah, I watched that happen to Portland over the past 25 years.

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              • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                @michelestrider May I quote you on that?

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                #14

                @drwho OK

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                • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                  I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                  #15

                  @michelestrider

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                  • thebreadmonkey@beige.partyT thebreadmonkey@beige.party

                    @michelestrider

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                    #16

                    @TheBreadmonkey It's so true

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                    • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                      I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                      adamrice@c.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #17

                      @michelestrider The thing is, you can go to Burning Man and never interact with the billionaires. They might as well not be there (in every sense).

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                      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                        #18

                        @michelestrider

                        I saw them burn Zozobra once, back in the 1980's

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                        • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                          @michelestrider As I read this the live feed cut out, so I guess the Parasites have arrived.
                          #BurningMan

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                          #19

                          @michelestrider we're back on!

                          https://www.youtube.com/live/cYltJN7n6NQ

                          #BurningMan

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                          • australopithecus@mastodon.socialA australopithecus@mastodon.social

                            @michelestrider
                            Yep. Followed the same trajectory as the gentrification of trendy neighborhoods:
                            • young artists do cool stuff
                            • young people doing cool stuff attracts attention
                            • attention attracts money
                            • young artists are priced out
                            • money chases money
                            • eventually billionaires arrive, ruining whatever's left

                            cainmark@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #20

                            @australopithecus @michelestrider

                            I have personally seen this happen twice in Huntsville, Alabama.

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                            • adamrice@c.imA adamrice@c.im

                              @michelestrider The thing is, you can go to Burning Man and never interact with the billionaires. They might as well not be there (in every sense).

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                              #21

                              @adamrice @michelestrider perhaps, but the takeaway stays.

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                              • argonaut@mastodon.socialA argonaut@mastodon.social

                                @adamrice @michelestrider perhaps, but the takeaway stays.

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                                #22

                                @argonaut @michelestrider What I’m saying is, the experiment has not gone to hell. Maybe to heck.

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                                • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                  I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                                  #23

                                  @michelestrider i have a feeling, albeit empirical, that it is things going to hell that bring billionaires, like culture-eating moths to the fires of societal failure.

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                                  • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                    I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                                    #24

                                    @michelestrider Intrinsically true. But I'd track back further still: hell goes active the second we believe that fake kindness deserves our financial support.
                                    Denominations simply become arbitrary after that.

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                                    • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                      I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                                      #25

                                      @michelestrider Pretty much on point

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                                      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                                        #26

                                        @michelestrider Recent HBO doc on this was Incredibly On The Nose about it.

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                                        • thebreadmonkey@beige.partyT thebreadmonkey@beige.party

                                          @michelestrider

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                                          #27

                                          @TheBreadmonkey @michelestrider
                                          companies trying to farm aura

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