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I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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  • australopithecus@mastodon.socialA australopithecus@mastodon.social

    @michelestrider
    Yep. Followed the same trajectory as the gentrification of trendy neighborhoods:
    • young artists do cool stuff
    • young people doing cool stuff attracts attention
    • attention attracts money
    • young artists are priced out
    • money chases money
    • eventually billionaires arrive, ruining whatever's left

    michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    michelestrider@mastodon.social
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    #5

    @australopithecus Exactly

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    • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

      I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

      lazarou@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
      lazarou@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #6

      @michelestrider As I read this the live feed cut out, so I guess the Parasites have arrived.
      #BurningMan

      lazarou@mastodon.socialL 1 Reply Last reply
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      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

        linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL This user is from outside of this forum
        linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL This user is from outside of this forum
        linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #7

        @michelestrider My wife asked me something about Burning Man and I said I hadn't given it any thought since I was reading Mondo 2000.

        Which is not actually true, because I always enjoy the Black Rock Radio broadcasts from Soma FM.

        michelestrider@mastodon.socialM drwho@masto.hackers.townD 2 Replies Last reply
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        • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

          @michelestrider My wife asked me something about Burning Man and I said I hadn't given it any thought since I was reading Mondo 2000.

          Which is not actually true, because I always enjoy the Black Rock Radio broadcasts from Soma FM.

          michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
          michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
          michelestrider@mastodon.social
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          #8

          @linuxandyarn I haven't listened to Black Rock Radio in years. I should, but usually just go between Groove Salad and Lush.

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          • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

            I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

            maybe_mbk@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            maybe_mbk@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            maybe_mbk@mastodon.social
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            #9

            @michelestrider

            When you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change. The devil changes you. (queue the gabber music)

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            • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

              I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

              drhyde@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @michelestrider the impression I got in the late 90s was that it went to hell a year or two after whoever was saying it had gone to hell had first been.

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              • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
                drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
                drwho@masto.hackers.town
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                #11

                @michelestrider May I quote you on that?

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                • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

                  @michelestrider My wife asked me something about Burning Man and I said I hadn't given it any thought since I was reading Mondo 2000.

                  Which is not actually true, because I always enjoy the Black Rock Radio broadcasts from Soma FM.

                  drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
                  drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
                  drwho@masto.hackers.town
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #12

                  @linuxandyarn @michelestrider One of my high school teachers was a burner.

                  I wonder what he thinks of it now.

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                  • australopithecus@mastodon.socialA australopithecus@mastodon.social

                    @michelestrider
                    Yep. Followed the same trajectory as the gentrification of trendy neighborhoods:
                    • young artists do cool stuff
                    • young people doing cool stuff attracts attention
                    • attention attracts money
                    • young artists are priced out
                    • money chases money
                    • eventually billionaires arrive, ruining whatever's left

                    nonehitwonder@tenforward.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    nonehitwonder@tenforward.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #13

                    @australopithecus @michelestrider oh yeah, I watched that happen to Portland over the past 25 years.

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                    • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                      @michelestrider May I quote you on that?

                      michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      michelestrider@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #14

                      @drwho OK

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                      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                        thebreadmonkey@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #15

                        @michelestrider

                        michelestrider@mastodon.socialM felipeb@hachyderm.ioF dolanor@hachyderm.ioD 3 Replies Last reply
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                        • thebreadmonkey@beige.partyT thebreadmonkey@beige.party

                          @michelestrider

                          michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #16

                          @TheBreadmonkey It's so true

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                          • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                            I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                            adamrice@c.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #17

                            @michelestrider The thing is, you can go to Burning Man and never interact with the billionaires. They might as well not be there (in every sense).

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                            • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                              I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                              #18

                              @michelestrider

                              I saw them burn Zozobra once, back in the 1980's

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                              • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                                @michelestrider As I read this the live feed cut out, so I guess the Parasites have arrived.
                                #BurningMan

                                lazarou@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #19

                                @michelestrider we're back on!

                                https://www.youtube.com/live/cYltJN7n6NQ

                                #BurningMan

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                                • australopithecus@mastodon.socialA australopithecus@mastodon.social

                                  @michelestrider
                                  Yep. Followed the same trajectory as the gentrification of trendy neighborhoods:
                                  • young artists do cool stuff
                                  • young people doing cool stuff attracts attention
                                  • attention attracts money
                                  • young artists are priced out
                                  • money chases money
                                  • eventually billionaires arrive, ruining whatever's left

                                  cainmark@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  cainmark@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  cainmark@mstdn.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #20

                                  @australopithecus @michelestrider

                                  I have personally seen this happen twice in Huntsville, Alabama.

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                                  • adamrice@c.imA adamrice@c.im

                                    @michelestrider The thing is, you can go to Burning Man and never interact with the billionaires. They might as well not be there (in every sense).

                                    argonaut@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #21

                                    @adamrice @michelestrider perhaps, but the takeaway stays.

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                                    • argonaut@mastodon.socialA argonaut@mastodon.social

                                      @adamrice @michelestrider perhaps, but the takeaway stays.

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                                      #22

                                      @argonaut @michelestrider What I’m saying is, the experiment has not gone to hell. Maybe to heck.

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                                      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                                        argonaut@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #23

                                        @michelestrider i have a feeling, albeit empirical, that it is things going to hell that bring billionaires, like culture-eating moths to the fires of societal failure.

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                                        • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                          I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                                          softproof@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #24

                                          @michelestrider Intrinsically true. But I'd track back further still: hell goes active the second we believe that fake kindness deserves our financial support.
                                          Denominations simply become arbitrary after that.

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