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  3. I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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  • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

    I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

    maybe_mbk@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    maybe_mbk@mastodon.social
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    #9

    @michelestrider

    When you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change. The devil changes you. (queue the gabber music)

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    • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

      I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

      drhyde@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #10

      @michelestrider the impression I got in the late 90s was that it went to hell a year or two after whoever was saying it had gone to hell had first been.

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      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

        drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #11

        @michelestrider May I quote you on that?

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        • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

          @michelestrider My wife asked me something about Burning Man and I said I hadn't given it any thought since I was reading Mondo 2000.

          Which is not actually true, because I always enjoy the Black Rock Radio broadcasts from Soma FM.

          drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #12

          @linuxandyarn @michelestrider One of my high school teachers was a burner.

          I wonder what he thinks of it now.

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          • australopithecus@mastodon.socialA australopithecus@mastodon.social

            @michelestrider
            Yep. Followed the same trajectory as the gentrification of trendy neighborhoods:
            • young artists do cool stuff
            • young people doing cool stuff attracts attention
            • attention attracts money
            • young artists are priced out
            • money chases money
            • eventually billionaires arrive, ruining whatever's left

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            #13

            @australopithecus @michelestrider oh yeah, I watched that happen to Portland over the past 25 years.

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            • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

              @michelestrider May I quote you on that?

              michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #14

              @drwho OK

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              • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                thebreadmonkey@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #15

                @michelestrider

                michelestrider@mastodon.socialM felipeb@hachyderm.ioF dolanor@hachyderm.ioD 3 Replies Last reply
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                • thebreadmonkey@beige.partyT thebreadmonkey@beige.party

                  @michelestrider

                  michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #16

                  @TheBreadmonkey It's so true

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                  • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                    I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                    adamrice@c.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #17

                    @michelestrider The thing is, you can go to Burning Man and never interact with the billionaires. They might as well not be there (in every sense).

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                    • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                      I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                      seanplynch@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #18

                      @michelestrider

                      I saw them burn Zozobra once, back in the 1980's

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                      • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                        @michelestrider As I read this the live feed cut out, so I guess the Parasites have arrived.
                        #BurningMan

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                        #19

                        @michelestrider we're back on!

                        https://www.youtube.com/live/cYltJN7n6NQ

                        #BurningMan

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                        • australopithecus@mastodon.socialA australopithecus@mastodon.social

                          @michelestrider
                          Yep. Followed the same trajectory as the gentrification of trendy neighborhoods:
                          • young artists do cool stuff
                          • young people doing cool stuff attracts attention
                          • attention attracts money
                          • young artists are priced out
                          • money chases money
                          • eventually billionaires arrive, ruining whatever's left

                          cainmark@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #20

                          @australopithecus @michelestrider

                          I have personally seen this happen twice in Huntsville, Alabama.

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                          • adamrice@c.imA adamrice@c.im

                            @michelestrider The thing is, you can go to Burning Man and never interact with the billionaires. They might as well not be there (in every sense).

                            argonaut@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #21

                            @adamrice @michelestrider perhaps, but the takeaway stays.

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                            • argonaut@mastodon.socialA argonaut@mastodon.social

                              @adamrice @michelestrider perhaps, but the takeaway stays.

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                              #22

                              @argonaut @michelestrider What I’m saying is, the experiment has not gone to hell. Maybe to heck.

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                              • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                                argonaut@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #23

                                @michelestrider i have a feeling, albeit empirical, that it is things going to hell that bring billionaires, like culture-eating moths to the fires of societal failure.

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                                • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                  I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                                  softproof@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #24

                                  @michelestrider Intrinsically true. But I'd track back further still: hell goes active the second we believe that fake kindness deserves our financial support.
                                  Denominations simply become arbitrary after that.

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                                  • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                    I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                                    gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #25

                                    @michelestrider Pretty much on point

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                                    • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                      I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                                      #26

                                      @michelestrider Recent HBO doc on this was Incredibly On The Nose about it.

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                                      • thebreadmonkey@beige.partyT thebreadmonkey@beige.party

                                        @michelestrider

                                        felipeb@hachyderm.ioF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #27

                                        @TheBreadmonkey @michelestrider
                                        companies trying to farm aura

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                                        • thebreadmonkey@beige.partyT thebreadmonkey@beige.party

                                          @michelestrider

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                                          #28

                                          @TheBreadmonkey @michelestrider totally wanted to post this meme.

                                          This is SO TRUE

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