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  3. I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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  • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

    I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

    linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @michelestrider My wife asked me something about Burning Man and I said I hadn't given it any thought since I was reading Mondo 2000.

    Which is not actually true, because I always enjoy the Black Rock Radio broadcasts from Soma FM.

    michelestrider@mastodon.socialM drwho@masto.hackers.townD 2 Replies Last reply
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    • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

      @michelestrider My wife asked me something about Burning Man and I said I hadn't given it any thought since I was reading Mondo 2000.

      Which is not actually true, because I always enjoy the Black Rock Radio broadcasts from Soma FM.

      michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @linuxandyarn I haven't listened to Black Rock Radio in years. I should, but usually just go between Groove Salad and Lush.

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      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

        maybe_mbk@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #9

        @michelestrider

        When you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change. The devil changes you. (queue the gabber music)

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        • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

          I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

          drhyde@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @michelestrider the impression I got in the late 90s was that it went to hell a year or two after whoever was saying it had gone to hell had first been.

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          • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

            I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

            drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @michelestrider May I quote you on that?

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            • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

              @michelestrider My wife asked me something about Burning Man and I said I hadn't given it any thought since I was reading Mondo 2000.

              Which is not actually true, because I always enjoy the Black Rock Radio broadcasts from Soma FM.

              drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #12

              @linuxandyarn @michelestrider One of my high school teachers was a burner.

              I wonder what he thinks of it now.

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              • australopithecus@mastodon.socialA australopithecus@mastodon.social

                @michelestrider
                Yep. Followed the same trajectory as the gentrification of trendy neighborhoods:
                • young artists do cool stuff
                • young people doing cool stuff attracts attention
                • attention attracts money
                • young artists are priced out
                • money chases money
                • eventually billionaires arrive, ruining whatever's left

                nonehitwonder@tenforward.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @australopithecus @michelestrider oh yeah, I watched that happen to Portland over the past 25 years.

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                • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                  @michelestrider May I quote you on that?

                  michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #14

                  @drwho OK

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                  • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                    I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                    #15

                    @michelestrider

                    michelestrider@mastodon.socialM felipeb@hachyderm.ioF dolanor@hachyderm.ioD 3 Replies Last reply
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                    • thebreadmonkey@beige.partyT thebreadmonkey@beige.party

                      @michelestrider

                      michelestrider@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #16

                      @TheBreadmonkey It's so true

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                      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

                        adamrice@c.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #17

                        @michelestrider The thing is, you can go to Burning Man and never interact with the billionaires. They might as well not be there (in every sense).

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                        • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                          I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                          #18

                          @michelestrider

                          I saw them burn Zozobra once, back in the 1980's

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                          • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                            @michelestrider As I read this the live feed cut out, so I guess the Parasites have arrived.
                            #BurningMan

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                            #19

                            @michelestrider we're back on!

                            https://www.youtube.com/live/cYltJN7n6NQ

                            #BurningMan

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                            • australopithecus@mastodon.socialA australopithecus@mastodon.social

                              @michelestrider
                              Yep. Followed the same trajectory as the gentrification of trendy neighborhoods:
                              • young artists do cool stuff
                              • young people doing cool stuff attracts attention
                              • attention attracts money
                              • young artists are priced out
                              • money chases money
                              • eventually billionaires arrive, ruining whatever's left

                              cainmark@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #20

                              @australopithecus @michelestrider

                              I have personally seen this happen twice in Huntsville, Alabama.

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                              • adamrice@c.imA adamrice@c.im

                                @michelestrider The thing is, you can go to Burning Man and never interact with the billionaires. They might as well not be there (in every sense).

                                argonaut@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #21

                                @adamrice @michelestrider perhaps, but the takeaway stays.

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                                • argonaut@mastodon.socialA argonaut@mastodon.social

                                  @adamrice @michelestrider perhaps, but the takeaway stays.

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                                  #22

                                  @argonaut @michelestrider What I’m saying is, the experiment has not gone to hell. Maybe to heck.

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                                  • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                    I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                                    #23

                                    @michelestrider i have a feeling, albeit empirical, that it is things going to hell that bring billionaires, like culture-eating moths to the fires of societal failure.

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                                    • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                      I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                                      #24

                                      @michelestrider Intrinsically true. But I'd track back further still: hell goes active the second we believe that fake kindness deserves our financial support.
                                      Denominations simply become arbitrary after that.

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                                      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                        I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                                        #25

                                        @michelestrider Pretty much on point

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                                        • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                          I think the most important takeaway from Burning Man's decades-long experiment in temporary community is that it all goes to hell as soon as the billionaires show up

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                                          #26

                                          @michelestrider Recent HBO doc on this was Incredibly On The Nose about it.

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