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  • joergba@mastodon.socialJ joergba@mastodon.social

    @Tutanota @GrapheneOS Wenn ich eine email aus Apps versenden muss wird immer nur Gmail angezeigt. Andere Email Anbieter muss ich extra eingeben. Beim Smartphone aber auch bei GoogleTV oder Amazon ( letzteres kennt wenigstens noch T-Online ).

    Selbst wenn mann alle Google Apps nicht mehr nutzen will drängeln diese sich immer rein.

    Auch bei Terminen z.B. für 7er Rugby World Series Übertragung nur Google Kalender zur Auswahl.

    Normales Android für Normalnutzer.

    tutanota@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @joergba @GrapheneOS Da versucht die EU etwas mit dem DMA gegen zu unternehmen, aber Google ignoriert's... Wir kämpfen weiter!

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

      This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
      https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

      Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

      This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

      #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

      It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

      More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

      retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @Tutanota @GrapheneOS The very same term "side loading" makes me mad, it's just loading what you want on an OS you've paid for

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      • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

        @Tutanota @GrapheneOS the only problem is that as of now GrapheneOS is only compatible with Pixel phones.
        From next year it will be compatible also with some select Motorola phones, not clear for now when and which ones.
        Short-term solution will be moving to some other Android-ish flavor (HyperOS, ColorOS, ...).
        Switching to iOS won't fix anything, as it's already where Google is going
        We definitely need a 3td alternative, soon.

        goodlucksil@social.tchncs.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @retrocomputing

        @Tutanota @GrapheneOS

        You don't need to use Graphene to escape Google's monopoly, and if you are looking for large coverage, that's antithetical to Graphene's goals.

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        • goodlucksil@social.tchncs.deG goodlucksil@social.tchncs.de

          @retrocomputing

          @Tutanota @GrapheneOS

          You don't need to use Graphene to escape Google's monopoly, and if you are looking for large coverage, that's antithetical to Graphene's goals.

          retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @Goodlucksil @Tutanota @GrapheneOS My understanding is that GrapheneOS' compatibility limits are set by the hardware, or lack thereof, not by some policies or intent.
          Can you name a phone OS alternative that can be used right now for your everyday phone?

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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

            This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
            https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

            Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

            This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

            #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

            It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

            More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

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            fireborn@dragonscave.space
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            #8

            @Tutanota @GrapheneOS Once fraphine becomes accessible with Talkback out of the box, I'll most certainly support it. Has any progress been made finding a tts engine that complies with licensing restrictions and can be bundled?

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

              This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
              https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

              Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

              This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

              #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

              It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

              More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

              azhog@social.vivaldi.netA This user is from outside of this forum
              azhog@social.vivaldi.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @Tutanota @jolla

              Quizá sea mejor acercarse a alternativas como Jolla.
              Open y Graphene no creo que quepan en la misma frase

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

                madduci@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                madduci@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #10

                @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

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                • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

                  @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

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                  magentamold@mastodon.social
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                  #11

                  @madduci

                  You can buy a cheap used Pixel 8.
                  This will give you 2 more years to wait for new motorola smartphones to enter the market and also see what will happen with new Pixels.

                  @Tutanota @GrapheneOS

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                    This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                    https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                    Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                    This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                    #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                    It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                    More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

                    hlrx@social.sneak.ovhH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @Tutanota @GrapheneOS Perhaps it’s time to move on from the Android/iOS duopoly, isn’t it? #sailfishOS

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                    • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                      @Tutanota @GrapheneOS the only problem is that as of now GrapheneOS is only compatible with Pixel phones.
                      From next year it will be compatible also with some select Motorola phones, not clear for now when and which ones.
                      Short-term solution will be moving to some other Android-ish flavor (HyperOS, ColorOS, ...).
                      Switching to iOS won't fix anything, as it's already where Google is going
                      We definitely need a 3td alternative, soon.

                      gregalotl@c.imG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      gregalotl@c.im
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                      #13

                      @retrocomputing

                      @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
                      Need to persuade banks that their apps are safe to run in the non-Google sanctioned scenarios.

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                        This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                        https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                        Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                        This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                        #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                        It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                        More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

                        narvod@framapiaf.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @Tutanota A shame Google went through with this... Yet not surprising coming from them. The openness of Android served them in the early days of Android to attract people, against big bad "Apple's locked down Iphone". Now it's in their way.
                        I used to recommend Fdroid to friends and family. Happy #murena_eos user myself (never had a graphene compatible device to try it), but I can't imagine recommending flashing a ROM to just anyone, not everyone is ready to take that big a step.

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                        • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                          @Tutanota @GrapheneOS The very same term "side loading" makes me mad, it's just loading what you want on an OS you've paid for

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                          markku@fosstodon.org
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                          #15

                          @retrocomputing @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
                          Yeah, it used to be called, "installing a software"... 😄

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                          • M markku@fosstodon.org

                            @retrocomputing @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
                            Yeah, it used to be called, "installing a software"... 😄

                            mcslibinas@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @markku @retrocomputing @Tutanota @GrapheneOS also "third party apps". "SD card usage restricted to third party apps". No, evilgoogle, it's not a third party app, it's my file browser in my own SD card where evilandroid made bloatware folders.

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                            • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

                              @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

                              fasnix@littleone.littlefedi.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #17

                              @madduci@mastodon.social
                              Two years ago, I got myself a used Pixel 7A for around 160€.
                              Still works perfectly fine with GrapheneOS.

                              @Tutanota @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social

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                              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                                This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                                https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                                Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                                This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                                #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                                It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                                More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

                                sounddrill@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #18

                                @Tutanota @GrapheneOS would be nice if you pushed actually cool well supported distributions like @LineageOS instead

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                                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                  🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                                  This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                                  https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                                  Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                                  This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                                  #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                                  It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                                  More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

                                  the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #19

                                  @Tutanota

                                  AOSP is just AP.
                                  If one must ask Google to send them the source code then there's nothing open-source about it.

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                                  • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

                                    @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

                                    atanasoff@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #20

                                    @madduci @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I've bought Pixel 8a last year for around 300e and it works great. I think they will support 8a until 2030, you can check on their website until when they plan to support certain devices.

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                                    • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                                      @Tutanota @GrapheneOS the only problem is that as of now GrapheneOS is only compatible with Pixel phones.
                                      From next year it will be compatible also with some select Motorola phones, not clear for now when and which ones.
                                      Short-term solution will be moving to some other Android-ish flavor (HyperOS, ColorOS, ...).
                                      Switching to iOS won't fix anything, as it's already where Google is going
                                      We definitely need a 3td alternative, soon.

                                      the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #21

                                      @retrocomputing

                                      Well, we do have some "3rd alternatives" such as Ubuntu Touch (shipped with Volla Phones) or Sailfish OS (shipped with Jolla Phone)

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                                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                        🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                                        This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                                        https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                                        Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                                        This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                                        #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                                        It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                                        More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

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                                        guru435@mastodon.social
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                                        #22

                                        https://urlgo.in/fnciz

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                                        • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                                          @Goodlucksil @Tutanota @GrapheneOS My understanding is that GrapheneOS' compatibility limits are set by the hardware, or lack thereof, not by some policies or intent.
                                          Can you name a phone OS alternative that can be used right now for your everyday phone?

                                          marcellinusme@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #23

                                          @retrocomputing @Goodlucksil @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
                                          Along with around 100,000 others, I use the deGoogled Android /e/OS. Sent from my new Murena Gigaset GS6.
                                          https://e.foundation/e-os/

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