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  • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

    Wow. The gloves are truly off.

    Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
    https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

    meneerdebruin@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #14

    @jaztrophysicist Well that's an easy choice. Climate goals of course.

    There is a third option which they apparently do not even want to contemplate: Want an ai data center? Then ensure there is enough alternative energy and water. No taking of the publicly available pool of resources.

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    • meneerdebruin@mastodon.nlM meneerdebruin@mastodon.nl

      @jaztrophysicist Well that's an easy choice. Climate goals of course.

      There is a third option which they apparently do not even want to contemplate: Want an ai data center? Then ensure there is enough alternative energy and water. No taking of the publicly available pool of resources.

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      #15

      @MeneerDeBruin Too bad our representatives are doing the exact opposite one.

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      • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

        Wow. The gloves are truly off.

        Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
        https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

        georgebaily@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #16

        @jaztrophysicist PR strategy: let's say the quiet part out loud because (checks notes) late stage capitalism brah

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        • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

          Wow. The gloves are truly off.

          Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
          https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

          wooshell@chaosfurs.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @jaztrophysicist The AI bubble will be gone in a year, the climate.. less so. So the choice is very clear.
          The EU commission is going to focus on AI, when the whole population would prefer them to focus on the environment.

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          • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

            Wow. The gloves are truly off.

            Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
            https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

            vampirdaddy@chaos.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @jaztrophysicist
            Gas plants are a US electricity network problem.

            Where electricity connection is missing, gas pipelines also are lacking. Thus a non-argument in the EU.

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            • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

              Wow. The gloves are truly off.

              Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
              https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

              ovrim@wien.rocksO This user is from outside of this forum
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              #19

              @jaztrophysicist that's easy : get rid of the #AIHoax ....

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              • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

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                #20

                @jaztrophysicist
                Funny! I never expected to hear the data centre lobby say something I've been saying about data centres...

                But yes, the EU must choose. I do hope they will choose wisely!

                (if their other choices, eg pro-poisoning ourselves with pesticides, are anything to go by they will, alas, choose... poorly.)

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                • christo_459@mastodon.me.ukC christo_459@mastodon.me.uk

                  @jaztrophysicist
                  Well if Europe wants to die

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                  #21

                  @Christo_459 more climate crisis will kill more than only Europeans, starting in poor countries ... @jaztrophysicist

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                  • vampirdaddy@chaos.socialV vampirdaddy@chaos.social

                    @jaztrophysicist
                    Gas plants are a US electricity network problem.

                    Where electricity connection is missing, gas pipelines also are lacking. Thus a non-argument in the EU.

                    naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #22

                    @vampirdaddy You missed, what German minister "Gas Kathy" aka Katherina Reiche plans?
                    @jaztrophysicist

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                    • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                      Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                      Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                      https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

                      disco3000@climatejustice.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #23

                      @jaztrophysicist then climate change please. Nobody wants the enshitification of everything with AI slop

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                      • disco3000@climatejustice.socialD disco3000@climatejustice.social

                        @jaztrophysicist then climate change please. Nobody wants the enshitification of everything with AI slop

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                        #24

                        @disco3000 it's not really a "choice" they are proposing of course they are lobbyists.

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                        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                          @Christo_459 more climate crisis will kill more than only Europeans, starting in poor countries ... @jaztrophysicist

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                          #25

                          @NatureMC @jaztrophysicist
                          💯

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                          • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                            Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                            Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                            https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

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                            #26

                            @jaztrophysicist I'd rephrase your summary by saying "Europe must choose AI over climate goals, data center lobby says", because I naively thought the conclusion would be the other one, and BOY WAS I WRONG.

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                            • orange_lux@eldritch.cafeO orange_lux@eldritch.cafe

                              @jaztrophysicist I'd rephrase your summary by saying "Europe must choose AI over climate goals, data center lobby says", because I naively thought the conclusion would be the other one, and BOY WAS I WRONG.

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                              #27

                              @orange_lux ( it's not my summary, it's politico's one)

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                              • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                                @orange_lux ( it's not my summary, it's politico's one)

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                                #28

                                @jaztrophysicist oh yes, you're right. But still.

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                                  #29

                                  @vampirdaddy @NatureMC or, more likely taxpayer citizens will foot the bill (financial and ecological)

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                                  • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                                    Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                                    Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                                    https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

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                                    #30

                                    @jaztrophysicist No brainer, isn't it?

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                                    • nichni@mastodonapp.ukN nichni@mastodonapp.uk

                                      @jaztrophysicist No brainer, isn't it?

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                                      #31

                                      @nichni for us. Not for the lobbied EU commission and parliement unfortunately.

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                                      • flomaraninchi@pouet.chapril.orgF flomaraninchi@pouet.chapril.org

                                        @jaztrophysicist

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                                        #32

                                        @flomaraninchi @jaztrophysicist and crappy summaries at that!

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                                        • flomaraninchi@pouet.chapril.orgF flomaraninchi@pouet.chapril.org

                                          @jaztrophysicist

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                                          #33

                                          @flomaraninchi J'ai un client qui était en stress de ne pas avoir lancer l'enregistrement de la dernière réunion. Alors que le compte rendu c'était le pauvre diagramme de flux que j'ai créé en live pendant la réunion.
                                          "Non mais Jean-Michel AMOA veut absolument les CR par IA" 💀

                                          @jaztrophysicist

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