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  • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

    Wow. The gloves are truly off.

    Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
    https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

    miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @jaztrophysicist "Do you want a habitable planet, or do you want to play with the slopbot until you and your children die in the climate disasters?"
    is quite possibly the easiest ultimatum a lobby has ever presented.
    Like, any politician who gets this one wrong should be banned from holding any office, anywhere.

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    • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

      @jaztrophysicist "Do you want a habitable planet, or do you want to play with the slopbot until you and your children die in the climate disasters?"
      is quite possibly the easiest ultimatum a lobby has ever presented.
      Like, any politician who gets this one wrong should be banned from holding any office, anywhere.

      jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #6

      @miss_rodent they will get it wrong, though.

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      • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

        @miss_rodent they will get it wrong, though.

        miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #7

        @jaztrophysicist Probably, and those politicians need to be removed from power. There as here and elsewhere.

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        • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

          Wow. The gloves are truly off.

          Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
          https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

          flomaraninchi@pouet.chapril.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @jaztrophysicist

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          • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

            Wow. The gloves are truly off.

            Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
            https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

            simonroyhughes@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            @jaztrophysicist

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            • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

              Wow. The gloves are truly off.

              Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
              https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

              daarin@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @jaztrophysicist But... Germany has to follow it's climate goals. That's a constitutional thing!

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              • steve@discuss.systemsS steve@discuss.systems

                @jaztrophysicist @MonniauxD clearest argument I’ve heard yet for getting rid of large-scale “AI”.

                lettosprey@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #11

                @steve Is it?We seem to have had the "we must choose between capitalism or climate goals" for a bit, and capitalism always wins, so I am not sure they run a risk by flagging this... Sadly.. it seems a clean, winning "forget climate, because money" argument... 😞 @jaztrophysicist @MonniauxD

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                • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                  Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                  Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                  https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

                  xerge@mastodon.nlX This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #12

                  @jaztrophysicist AI datacenters and massive profits for billionaires, or a livable future for humanity. Only neoliberal politicians think that’s a difficult choice. Unfortunately, that’s what we’ve got currently.

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                  • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                    Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                    Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                    https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

                    christo_459@mastodon.me.ukC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #13

                    @jaztrophysicist
                    Well if Europe wants to die

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                    • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                      Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                      Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                      https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

                      meneerdebruin@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #14

                      @jaztrophysicist Well that's an easy choice. Climate goals of course.

                      There is a third option which they apparently do not even want to contemplate: Want an ai data center? Then ensure there is enough alternative energy and water. No taking of the publicly available pool of resources.

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                      • meneerdebruin@mastodon.nlM meneerdebruin@mastodon.nl

                        @jaztrophysicist Well that's an easy choice. Climate goals of course.

                        There is a third option which they apparently do not even want to contemplate: Want an ai data center? Then ensure there is enough alternative energy and water. No taking of the publicly available pool of resources.

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                        #15

                        @MeneerDeBruin Too bad our representatives are doing the exact opposite one.

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                        • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                          Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                          Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                          https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

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                          #16

                          @jaztrophysicist PR strategy: let's say the quiet part out loud because (checks notes) late stage capitalism brah

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                          • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                            Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                            Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                            https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

                            wooshell@chaosfurs.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #17

                            @jaztrophysicist The AI bubble will be gone in a year, the climate.. less so. So the choice is very clear.
                            The EU commission is going to focus on AI, when the whole population would prefer them to focus on the environment.

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                            • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                              Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                              Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                              https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

                              vampirdaddy@chaos.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #18

                              @jaztrophysicist
                              Gas plants are a US electricity network problem.

                              Where electricity connection is missing, gas pipelines also are lacking. Thus a non-argument in the EU.

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                              • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                                Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                                Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                                https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

                                ovrim@wien.rocksO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #19

                                @jaztrophysicist that's easy : get rid of the #AIHoax ....

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                                • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                                  Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                                  Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                                  https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

                                  thijs_goverde@mastodon.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #20

                                  @jaztrophysicist
                                  Funny! I never expected to hear the data centre lobby say something I've been saying about data centres...

                                  But yes, the EU must choose. I do hope they will choose wisely!

                                  (if their other choices, eg pro-poisoning ourselves with pesticides, are anything to go by they will, alas, choose... poorly.)

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                                  • christo_459@mastodon.me.ukC christo_459@mastodon.me.uk

                                    @jaztrophysicist
                                    Well if Europe wants to die

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                                    #21

                                    @Christo_459 more climate crisis will kill more than only Europeans, starting in poor countries ... @jaztrophysicist

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                                    • vampirdaddy@chaos.socialV vampirdaddy@chaos.social

                                      @jaztrophysicist
                                      Gas plants are a US electricity network problem.

                                      Where electricity connection is missing, gas pipelines also are lacking. Thus a non-argument in the EU.

                                      naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #22

                                      @vampirdaddy You missed, what German minister "Gas Kathy" aka Katherina Reiche plans?
                                      @jaztrophysicist

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                                      • jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.reJ jaztrophysicist@social.sciences.re

                                        Wow. The gloves are truly off.

                                        Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says – POLITICO
                                        https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-choose-ai-climate-goals-data-center-chief-warns/

                                        disco3000@climatejustice.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #23

                                        @jaztrophysicist then climate change please. Nobody wants the enshitification of everything with AI slop

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                                        • disco3000@climatejustice.socialD disco3000@climatejustice.social

                                          @jaztrophysicist then climate change please. Nobody wants the enshitification of everything with AI slop

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                                          #24

                                          @disco3000 it's not really a "choice" they are proposing of course they are lobbyists.

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