The Minions of Avian Intelligence
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"So if you ask tho the neighbour city instead of only the one you live in" - you know these polls have run world-wide, right?
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org But not across the whole population, only part of it.
Local reality, or bubble filter, aren’t only geographic, you know?
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org I don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works.
Which is a bit concerning for a “maths teacher/tutor”.
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works" - I have a degree in Statistics dude, how about you?
"Which is a bit concerning for a "maths teacher/tutor"" - which part did you miss where I majored in Statistics along the way to becoming a Maths teacher?
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works" - I have a degree in Statistics dude, how about you?"Which is a bit concerning for a "maths teacher/tutor"" - which part did you miss where I majored in Statistics along the way to becoming a Maths teacher?
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org That’s concerning…
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org But not across the whole population, only part of it.
Local reality, or bubble filter, aren’t only geographic, you know?
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"not across the whole population, only part of it" - a random sample of it -
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org That’s concerning…
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"That’s concerning" - I'll take that as a no, you DON'T have a degree in Statistics then. Thanks for playing -
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"not across the whole population, only part of it" - a random sample of it@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org How do you know it was?
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I bet it wasn’t.
I can’t prove it, but you can’t prove it was either.
That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it.
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org How do you know it was?
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I bet it wasn’t.
I can’t prove it, but you can’t prove it was either.
That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it.
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @Stem@framapiaf.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org If you have more serious studies than “a poll on the web” to prove that 90% of the whole population is against IA, I’ll take them.
But a poll on the web will never be a thing that we can use to conclude anything by itself.
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@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"That’s concerning" - I'll take that as a no, you DON'T have a degree in Statistics then. Thanks for playing@SmartmanApps @breizh @Stem So, according to your logic, Smartman, if we would re-run the US presidential vote here (constrain: only with voter who have a Mastodon/Fediverse account since more than one year to exclude bot and newcomers) we would obtain the same result as the one reality gave us? Right?
Well, statistic or not, I wouldn't bet on that even a single Euro.
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org How do you know it was?
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I bet it wasn’t.
I can’t prove it, but you can’t prove it was either.
That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it.
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"you can’t prove it was either" - I don't need to. That's how Statistics works"That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it" - we can draw conclusions from a random sample of 25 people. If you had a degree in Statistics then you would know that already
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@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @Stem@framapiaf.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org If you have more serious studies than “a poll on the web” to prove that 90% of the whole population is against IA, I’ll take them.
But a poll on the web will never be a thing that we can use to conclude anything by itself.
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"poll on the web will never be a thing that we can use to conclude anything by itself" - we can if it's a random sample -
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"you can’t prove it was either" - I don't need to. That's how Statistics works"That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it" - we can draw conclusions from a random sample of 25 people. If you had a degree in Statistics then you would know that already
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org If you ask 25 of your students, it’s not a random sample.
Even if you ask them to ask 25 other people too. Because the people they know aren’t random.
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@SmartmanApps @breizh @Stem So, according to your logic, Smartman, if we would re-run the US presidential vote here (constrain: only with voter who have a Mastodon/Fediverse account since more than one year to exclude bot and newcomers) we would obtain the same result as the one reality gave us? Right?
Well, statistic or not, I wouldn't bet on that even a single Euro.
@davidrevoy @breizh @Stem
"Right?" - Wrong. Voting isn't compulsory, so you have to only poll people who are going to vote -
@Eldeberen @davidrevoy @Stem @breizh
"If we apply fedi polls in reality, we would have" - you got any polls to back you up on that? -
@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org If you ask 25 of your students, it’s not a random sample.
Even if you ask them to ask 25 other people too. Because the people they know aren’t random.
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"If you ask 25 of your students, it’s not a random sample" - that's right. If you only care about the students in your class then that's the entire population, not a sample. I see you wanted to prove you don't understand Statistics. Good on you -
@Eldeberen @davidrevoy @Stem @breizh
"I can find a bunch yes" - so why haven't you cited them? That's how backing up claims works -
@breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
"If you ask 25 of your students, it’s not a random sample" - that's right. If you only care about the students in your class then that's the entire population, not a sample. I see you wanted to prove you don't understand Statistics. Good on you@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org But then a poll shared by your followers (or the DDG users) is like a poll shared by your students…
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@Eldeberen @davidrevoy @Stem @breizh
"I can find a bunch yes" - so why haven't you cited them? That's how backing up claims works@SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @Eldeberen@social.middleearth.fr @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org Oh, two identical polls with differents results.
Oops.
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@SmartmanApps @breizh @Stem So, according to your logic, Smartman, if we would re-run the US presidential vote here (constrain: only with voter who have a Mastodon/Fediverse account since more than one year to exclude bot and newcomers) we would obtain the same result as the one reality gave us? Right?
Well, statistic or not, I wouldn't bet on that even a single Euro.
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@davidrevoy Sadly, people hating AI are just a loud minority, we have statistical evidences to prove it.
@Stem @davidrevoy you know it’s really weird to just make shit up about statistical evidence
here’s a recent pew research study showing that the majority of the US population doesn’t like AI: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/08/18/young-adults-in-the-us-are-increasingly-wary-of-ai-concerned-it-will-take-jobs/
here’s a pivot to AI article from @davidgerard that links a Gallup poll and a heatmap survey with similar results concerning opinions on AI and data centers: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/25/everybody-hates-the-ai-more-and-more/
whenever we run polls it turns out the majority of people hate this shit regardless of what population is being polled
it’s uhh fucked to come on mastodon and claim to have statistical evidence and then just not link it
