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  3. Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 8 - 16 June - Bruxelles- Köln - Hamburg, onto night train

Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 8 - 16 June - Bruxelles- Köln - Hamburg, onto night train

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Semi refreshed after a rest day, it's time to head towards the two hardest borders I am missing - both Norway-Sweden. First it's back to Germany to an event in Köln, then Hamburg, and then onto the SJ night train to Stockholm, a service I have been meaning to take for years now but haven't yet!

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    #3

    Wave yourself up with this one this morning! Today's #CrossBorderRail music track

    Nightrain
    Guns N' Roses

    I think I am going to need this to get myself to sleep on the SJ Night Train heading north later

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMDljoM5JFI

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Wave yourself up with this one this morning! Today's #CrossBorderRail music track

      Nightrain
      Guns N' Roses

      I think I am going to need this to get myself to sleep on the SJ Night Train heading north later

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMDljoM5JFI

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      #4

      #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 37 of 152
      ICE 11
      06:23 Bruxelles Midi - Köln Hbf 08:15
      DB Fernverkehr

      Train type: Siemens ICE3neo Velaro, 8 carriages
      ⚡️ (3kV dc, 25kV ac, 3kV dc, 25kV ac, 3kV dc, 15kV ac)
      🚲: ✅ (needs reservation)
      🦽: ✅ (lift on board or ramp on platform, but not step free)
      🛜: ✅
      🍽️: ✅
      🧳: 🙂 (well designed)️
      🧽: ☹️ (it wasn't cleaned overnight and is full of beer bottles, and I cleaned beer off my seat myself. Train manager was apologetic at least)

      🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 37 of 152
        ICE 11
        06:23 Bruxelles Midi - Köln Hbf 08:15
        DB Fernverkehr

        Train type: Siemens ICE3neo Velaro, 8 carriages
        ⚡️ (3kV dc, 25kV ac, 3kV dc, 25kV ac, 3kV dc, 15kV ac)
        🚲: ✅ (needs reservation)
        🦽: ✅ (lift on board or ramp on platform, but not step free)
        🛜: ✅
        🍽️: ✅
        🧳: 🙂 (well designed)️
        🧽: ☹️ (it wasn't cleaned overnight and is full of beer bottles, and I cleaned beer off my seat myself. Train manager was apologetic at least)

        🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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        #5

        ICE 11
        06:23 Bruxelles Midi - Köln Hbf 08:15

        Distance: 222.9km
        Average speed: 119km/h

        4 stops:
        Bruxelles-Nord
        Liège-Guillemins
        Aachen Hbf
        Köln Hbf

        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#10/50.7783/5.6476

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          ICE 11
          06:23 Bruxelles Midi - Köln Hbf 08:15

          Distance: 222.9km
          Average speed: 119km/h

          4 stops:
          Bruxelles-Nord
          Liège-Guillemins
          Aachen Hbf
          Köln Hbf

          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#10/50.7783/5.6476

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          #6

          Hey Bundespolizei in Aachen!

          We have a person on board with known connections to the Chinese secret service, and a proven record of trying to bring down the German state in an anti democratic manner

          If your border controls are any use, this person should not be let through, surely?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Krah

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Hey Bundespolizei in Aachen!

            We have a person on board with known connections to the Chinese secret service, and a proven record of trying to bring down the German state in an anti democratic manner

            If your border controls are any use, this person should not be let through, surely?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Krah

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            #7

            Here's today's intro video, filmed from Gare du Midi

            But I was a bit sweaty from having cycled there!

            https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/sM6yD7qkaDV2T9rLE5CEGk

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Here's today's intro video, filmed from Gare du Midi

              But I was a bit sweaty from having cycled there!

              https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/sM6yD7qkaDV2T9rLE5CEGk

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              Meanwhile in France...

              SNCF can now fine you up to €1500 for forgetting a bag somewhere

              *YOU DO NOT STOP PEOPLE BEING FORGETFUL BY FINING THEM*

              *AND NOT EVERY ABANDONED BAG IS A BOMB*

              FFS

              Let's make taking the train as nasty an experience as possible

              https://www.journaldunet.com/patrimoine/finances-personnelles/1542323-hf1-nouvelle-amende-sncf/

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Meanwhile in France...

                SNCF can now fine you up to €1500 for forgetting a bag somewhere

                *YOU DO NOT STOP PEOPLE BEING FORGETFUL BY FINING THEM*

                *AND NOT EVERY ABANDONED BAG IS A BOMB*

                FFS

                Let's make taking the train as nasty an experience as possible

                https://www.journaldunet.com/patrimoine/finances-personnelles/1542323-hf1-nouvelle-amende-sncf/

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                #9

                So either there were no border controls at all in Aachen, or the police are on board and boarded at the back and haven't got to me yet. But we're just about on time heading for Köln. Given the mess of the last week I'll take this, happily! 😀

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  So either there were no border controls at all in Aachen, or the police are on board and boarded at the back and haven't got to me yet. But we're just about on time heading for Köln. Given the mess of the last week I'll take this, happily! 😀

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                  #10

                  Pottering around Köln for #CrossChannelRail this morning. Will complete the feed once I’m in the ICE to Hamburg shortly.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    Pottering around Köln for #CrossChannelRail this morning. Will complete the feed once I’m in the ICE to Hamburg shortly.

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                    #11

                    Waiting my train to Hamburg at Köln Hbf, one of Europe’s great stations. Today all is reasonably calm here, delays minimal.

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Waiting my train to Hamburg at Köln Hbf, one of Europe’s great stations. Today all is reasonably calm here, delays minimal.

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                      #12

                      On the point earlier in the thread about France's new fines for forgotten luggage, I think we should describe France has having a "passenger hostile railway" - as a term to describe how decisions are not taken in the passenger interest, the assumption of guilt, the hefty fines, the patronising announcements...

                      Is there a way to adequately translate this adequately into French? Wdzt @remi @tomtom @raph_v ?

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        On the point earlier in the thread about France's new fines for forgotten luggage, I think we should describe France has having a "passenger hostile railway" - as a term to describe how decisions are not taken in the passenger interest, the assumption of guilt, the hefty fines, the patronising announcements...

                        Is there a way to adequately translate this adequately into French? Wdzt @remi @tomtom @raph_v ?

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                        #13

                        #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 38 of 154
                        RE 1 (26810)
                        10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28
                        National Express

                        Train type: Siemens Desiro HC EMU, 2x 2 single deck and 2 double deck carriages
                        ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                        🚲: ✅
                        🦽: ✅ (step free into single deck carriages)
                        🛜: ✅
                        🍽️: ⛔️
                        🧳: 🙂
                        🧽: 🙂

                        🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 38 of 154
                          RE 1 (26810)
                          10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28
                          National Express

                          Train type: Siemens Desiro HC EMU, 2x 2 single deck and 2 double deck carriages
                          ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                          🚲: ✅
                          🦽: ✅ (step free into single deck carriages)
                          🛜: ✅
                          🍽️: ⛔️
                          🧳: 🙂
                          🧽: 🙂

                          🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                          RE 1 (26810)
                          10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28

                          Distance: 14.7km
                          Average speed: 110km/h

                          1 stops:
                          Horrem

                          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#13/50.9345/6.8162

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                            RE 1 (26810)
                            10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28

                            Distance: 14.7km
                            Average speed: 110km/h

                            1 stops:
                            Horrem

                            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#13/50.9345/6.8162

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                            #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 39 of 154
                            S 19
                            10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20
                            DB Regio AG NRW

                            Train type: Adtranz, Alstom LHB, ABB, Bombardier 423 EMU, 2x 4 short carriages
                            ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                            🚲: ✅
                            🦽: ✅ (step free, although not all trains on this line are)
                            🛜: ❓(forgot to check, but I think only renovated trains have wifi and this wasn’t renovated?)
                            🍽️: ⛔️
                            🧳: 😐 (not the best design, door vestibules are more cramped than they need be)
                            🧽: 🙂

                            🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 39 of 154
                              S 19
                              10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20
                              DB Regio AG NRW

                              Train type: Adtranz, Alstom LHB, ABB, Bombardier 423 EMU, 2x 4 short carriages
                              ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                              🚲: ✅
                              🦽: ✅ (step free, although not all trains on this line are)
                              🛜: ❓(forgot to check, but I think only renovated trains have wifi and this wasn’t renovated?)
                              🍽️: ⛔️
                              🧳: 😐 (not the best design, door vestibules are more cramped than they need be)
                              🧽: 🙂

                              🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                              #16

                              S 19
                              10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20

                              Distance: 18.4km
                              Average speed: 53km/h

                              7 stops:
                              Frechen-Königsdorf
                              Köln-Weiden West
                              Lövenich
                              Köln-Müngersdorf Technologiepark
                              Köln-Ehrenfeld
                              Köln Hansaring
                              Köln Hbf

                              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#12/50.9360/6.8378

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                                S 19
                                10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20

                                Distance: 18.4km
                                Average speed: 53km/h

                                7 stops:
                                Frechen-Königsdorf
                                Köln-Weiden West
                                Lövenich
                                Köln-Müngersdorf Technologiepark
                                Köln-Ehrenfeld
                                Köln Hansaring
                                Köln Hbf

                                This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#12/50.9360/6.8378

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                                #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 40 of 154
                                ICE 1020
                                12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51
                                DB Fernverkehr

                                Train type: AEG, ABB, Henschel, Krauss, Krupp, Siemens ICE 1, 2 power cars and 9 carriages
                                ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                                🚲: ⛔️
                                🦽: ✅ (needs lift on platform)
                                🛜: ✅
                                🍽️: ✅
                                🧳: 🙂
                                🧽: 🙂

                                🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                                  #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 40 of 154
                                  ICE 1020
                                  12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51
                                  DB Fernverkehr

                                  Train type: AEG, ABB, Henschel, Krauss, Krupp, Siemens ICE 1, 2 power cars and 9 carriages
                                  ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                                  🚲: ⛔️
                                  🦽: ✅ (needs lift on platform)
                                  🛜: ✅
                                  🍽️: ✅
                                  🧳: 🙂
                                  🧽: 🙂

                                  🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                                  #18

                                  ICE 1020
                                  12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51

                                  Distance: 436.9km
                                  Average speed: 119km/h

                                  6 stops:
                                  Düsseldorf Hbf
                                  Duisburg Hbf
                                  Essen Hbf
                                  Münster(Westf)Hbf
                                  Hamburg-Harburg
                                  Hamburg Hbf

                                  This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/52.266/8.399

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    ICE 1020
                                    12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51

                                    Distance: 436.9km
                                    Average speed: 119km/h

                                    6 stops:
                                    Düsseldorf Hbf
                                    Duisburg Hbf
                                    Essen Hbf
                                    Münster(Westf)Hbf
                                    Hamburg-Harburg
                                    Hamburg Hbf

                                    This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/52.266/8.399

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                                    #19

                                    The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

                                    They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

                                    And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

                                    What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

                                      They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

                                      And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

                                      What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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                                      #20

                                      One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

                                      This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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                                        One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

                                        This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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                                        #21

                                        Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

                                        There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

                                        It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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                                          Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

                                          There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

                                          It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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                                          #22

                                          And now 10 mins later the delay is reduced by 20 mins.

                                          Do they know what they're doing, or are they making this up?

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