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Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 8 - 16 June - Bruxelles- Köln - Hamburg, onto night train

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    ICE 11
    06:23 Bruxelles Midi - Köln Hbf 08:15

    Distance: 222.9km
    Average speed: 119km/h

    4 stops:
    Bruxelles-Nord
    Liège-Guillemins
    Aachen Hbf
    Köln Hbf

    This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#10/50.7783/5.6476

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    #6

    Hey Bundespolizei in Aachen!

    We have a person on board with known connections to the Chinese secret service, and a proven record of trying to bring down the German state in an anti democratic manner

    If your border controls are any use, this person should not be let through, surely?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Krah

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Hey Bundespolizei in Aachen!

      We have a person on board with known connections to the Chinese secret service, and a proven record of trying to bring down the German state in an anti democratic manner

      If your border controls are any use, this person should not be let through, surely?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Krah

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      #7

      Here's today's intro video, filmed from Gare du Midi

      But I was a bit sweaty from having cycled there!

      https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/sM6yD7qkaDV2T9rLE5CEGk

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Here's today's intro video, filmed from Gare du Midi

        But I was a bit sweaty from having cycled there!

        https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/sM6yD7qkaDV2T9rLE5CEGk

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        #8

        Meanwhile in France...

        SNCF can now fine you up to €1500 for forgetting a bag somewhere

        *YOU DO NOT STOP PEOPLE BEING FORGETFUL BY FINING THEM*

        *AND NOT EVERY ABANDONED BAG IS A BOMB*

        FFS

        Let's make taking the train as nasty an experience as possible

        https://www.journaldunet.com/patrimoine/finances-personnelles/1542323-hf1-nouvelle-amende-sncf/

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Meanwhile in France...

          SNCF can now fine you up to €1500 for forgetting a bag somewhere

          *YOU DO NOT STOP PEOPLE BEING FORGETFUL BY FINING THEM*

          *AND NOT EVERY ABANDONED BAG IS A BOMB*

          FFS

          Let's make taking the train as nasty an experience as possible

          https://www.journaldunet.com/patrimoine/finances-personnelles/1542323-hf1-nouvelle-amende-sncf/

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          #9

          So either there were no border controls at all in Aachen, or the police are on board and boarded at the back and haven't got to me yet. But we're just about on time heading for Köln. Given the mess of the last week I'll take this, happily! 😀

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            So either there were no border controls at all in Aachen, or the police are on board and boarded at the back and haven't got to me yet. But we're just about on time heading for Köln. Given the mess of the last week I'll take this, happily! 😀

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            #10

            Pottering around Köln for #CrossChannelRail this morning. Will complete the feed once I’m in the ICE to Hamburg shortly.

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Pottering around Köln for #CrossChannelRail this morning. Will complete the feed once I’m in the ICE to Hamburg shortly.

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              #11

              Waiting my train to Hamburg at Köln Hbf, one of Europe’s great stations. Today all is reasonably calm here, delays minimal.

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Waiting my train to Hamburg at Köln Hbf, one of Europe’s great stations. Today all is reasonably calm here, delays minimal.

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                #12

                On the point earlier in the thread about France's new fines for forgotten luggage, I think we should describe France has having a "passenger hostile railway" - as a term to describe how decisions are not taken in the passenger interest, the assumption of guilt, the hefty fines, the patronising announcements...

                Is there a way to adequately translate this adequately into French? Wdzt @remi @tomtom @raph_v ?

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  On the point earlier in the thread about France's new fines for forgotten luggage, I think we should describe France has having a "passenger hostile railway" - as a term to describe how decisions are not taken in the passenger interest, the assumption of guilt, the hefty fines, the patronising announcements...

                  Is there a way to adequately translate this adequately into French? Wdzt @remi @tomtom @raph_v ?

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                  #13

                  #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 38 of 154
                  RE 1 (26810)
                  10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28
                  National Express

                  Train type: Siemens Desiro HC EMU, 2x 2 single deck and 2 double deck carriages
                  ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                  🚲: ✅
                  🦽: ✅ (step free into single deck carriages)
                  🛜: ✅
                  🍽️: ⛔️
                  🧳: 🙂
                  🧽: 🙂

                  🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 38 of 154
                    RE 1 (26810)
                    10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28
                    National Express

                    Train type: Siemens Desiro HC EMU, 2x 2 single deck and 2 double deck carriages
                    ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                    🚲: ✅
                    🦽: ✅ (step free into single deck carriages)
                    🛜: ✅
                    🍽️: ⛔️
                    🧳: 🙂
                    🧽: 🙂

                    🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                    #14

                    RE 1 (26810)
                    10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28

                    Distance: 14.7km
                    Average speed: 110km/h

                    1 stops:
                    Horrem

                    This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#13/50.9345/6.8162

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      RE 1 (26810)
                      10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28

                      Distance: 14.7km
                      Average speed: 110km/h

                      1 stops:
                      Horrem

                      This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#13/50.9345/6.8162

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                      #15

                      #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 39 of 154
                      S 19
                      10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20
                      DB Regio AG NRW

                      Train type: Adtranz, Alstom LHB, ABB, Bombardier 423 EMU, 2x 4 short carriages
                      ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                      🚲: ✅
                      🦽: ✅ (step free, although not all trains on this line are)
                      🛜: ❓(forgot to check, but I think only renovated trains have wifi and this wasn’t renovated?)
                      🍽️: ⛔️
                      🧳: 😐 (not the best design, door vestibules are more cramped than they need be)
                      🧽: 🙂

                      🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 39 of 154
                        S 19
                        10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20
                        DB Regio AG NRW

                        Train type: Adtranz, Alstom LHB, ABB, Bombardier 423 EMU, 2x 4 short carriages
                        ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                        🚲: ✅
                        🦽: ✅ (step free, although not all trains on this line are)
                        🛜: ❓(forgot to check, but I think only renovated trains have wifi and this wasn’t renovated?)
                        🍽️: ⛔️
                        🧳: 😐 (not the best design, door vestibules are more cramped than they need be)
                        🧽: 🙂

                        🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                        #16

                        S 19
                        10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20

                        Distance: 18.4km
                        Average speed: 53km/h

                        7 stops:
                        Frechen-Königsdorf
                        Köln-Weiden West
                        Lövenich
                        Köln-Müngersdorf Technologiepark
                        Köln-Ehrenfeld
                        Köln Hansaring
                        Köln Hbf

                        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#12/50.9360/6.8378

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          S 19
                          10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20

                          Distance: 18.4km
                          Average speed: 53km/h

                          7 stops:
                          Frechen-Königsdorf
                          Köln-Weiden West
                          Lövenich
                          Köln-Müngersdorf Technologiepark
                          Köln-Ehrenfeld
                          Köln Hansaring
                          Köln Hbf

                          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#12/50.9360/6.8378

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                          #17

                          #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 40 of 154
                          ICE 1020
                          12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51
                          DB Fernverkehr

                          Train type: AEG, ABB, Henschel, Krauss, Krupp, Siemens ICE 1, 2 power cars and 9 carriages
                          ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                          🚲: ⛔️
                          🦽: ✅ (needs lift on platform)
                          🛜: ✅
                          🍽️: ✅
                          🧳: 🙂
                          🧽: 🙂

                          🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 40 of 154
                            ICE 1020
                            12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51
                            DB Fernverkehr

                            Train type: AEG, ABB, Henschel, Krauss, Krupp, Siemens ICE 1, 2 power cars and 9 carriages
                            ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                            🚲: ⛔️
                            🦽: ✅ (needs lift on platform)
                            🛜: ✅
                            🍽️: ✅
                            🧳: 🙂
                            🧽: 🙂

                            🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                            #18

                            ICE 1020
                            12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51

                            Distance: 436.9km
                            Average speed: 119km/h

                            6 stops:
                            Düsseldorf Hbf
                            Duisburg Hbf
                            Essen Hbf
                            Münster(Westf)Hbf
                            Hamburg-Harburg
                            Hamburg Hbf

                            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/52.266/8.399

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              ICE 1020
                              12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51

                              Distance: 436.9km
                              Average speed: 119km/h

                              6 stops:
                              Düsseldorf Hbf
                              Duisburg Hbf
                              Essen Hbf
                              Münster(Westf)Hbf
                              Hamburg-Harburg
                              Hamburg Hbf

                              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/52.266/8.399

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                              #19

                              The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

                              They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

                              And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

                              What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

                                They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

                                And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

                                What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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                                #20

                                One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

                                This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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                                  One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

                                  This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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                                  #21

                                  Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

                                  There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

                                  It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

                                    There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

                                    It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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                                    #22

                                    And now 10 mins later the delay is reduced by 20 mins.

                                    Do they know what they're doing, or are they making this up?

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      And now 10 mins later the delay is reduced by 20 mins.

                                      Do they know what they're doing, or are they making this up?

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                                      #23

                                      Current contingency: see when the train departs, and then get off it prematurely tomorrow morning, in Malmö

                                      X2000 Malmö-Stockholm takes between 4:20 and 4:35, the night train more than 6 hours (and if delayed anyway will just get delayed more)

                                      I just need to work out which X2000 it would be sensible to reserve...

                                      (Interrail means I can do this reasonably easily and for 75 SEK)

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                                        Current contingency: see when the train departs, and then get off it prematurely tomorrow morning, in Malmö

                                        X2000 Malmö-Stockholm takes between 4:20 and 4:35, the night train more than 6 hours (and if delayed anyway will just get delayed more)

                                        I just need to work out which X2000 it would be sensible to reserve...

                                        (Interrail means I can do this reasonably easily and for 75 SEK)

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                                        #24

                                        Ah

                                        If the SJ-RDC mess wasn’t enough, DB has now managed to clog up all the platforms at Hamburg Hbf with delayed ICEs. So if the EuroNight is trying to get in here it can’t.

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          Ah

                                          If the SJ-RDC mess wasn’t enough, DB has now managed to clog up all the platforms at Hamburg Hbf with delayed ICEs. So if the EuroNight is trying to get in here it can’t.

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                                          #25

                                          And we’ve had about a dozen automated announcements about the delay here on the platform, and the delay goes up 10 minutes every 10 minutes 🤷‍♂️

                                          Thank goodness I’m doing this on Interrail

                                          Buy a regular ticket for this and it’s a fortune

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