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  • A atoms4justice@universeodon.com

    @brennan As a mere user with little background knowledge, I got lost on bullet 3 of the initial page because I did not realize that DHH is the Omarchy founder. So weave that in for the unfamiliar folks like myself. Thanks for bringing attention to this. I understood that programming either attracts sick people, but I didn't realize that they'd grouped together. Clearly DHH needs to go and meet the newcomers to London, and probably a few other things.

    Words of caution, but not discouragement: Sometime before the 2024 election acceptance in the the US started being co-opted as a bludgeon (by opportunists who are not accepting). The accusation of intolerance was becoming just as corrosive as hate itself, and had I been less wise, I would have thought tolerance was a sham. So make sure to pave a golden path to repentance for these people that isn't a mere show. As Sun Tsu pointed out: "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free." Art of War 7:36. Had I lived a slightly different life, I could have turned out to be an intolerant jerk myself.

    Good work!

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    #77

    @atoms4justice thank you for the feedback, i sincerely appreciate it and will tweak the beginning to explain better

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    • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

      @parabellum_linux_project I can see you do not understand what's going on here still.

      Why would DHH's reputation need to be changed and overhauled? Because he is an extremist. That is being funded. Omarchy is he way of normalizing his politics. That is what is so insidious about it.

      Do you think a project run by someone who wrote those essays and published that doctrine is just neutral open-source infrastructure? If yes, we disagree on the facts. If no, then we’re arguing about degrees of complicity, not whether there’s a link.

      parabellum_linux_project@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #78

      @brennan Translating it yourself is probably too much work, so I'll keep it in English:
      As a maintainer, I don't personally like DHH or Omarchy either. But you dismantled your own thesis by constantly shifting goalposts from 'political front' to 'insidious reputation washing.' Believe whatever conspiracy you want, but open source runs on code, not blog posts

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      • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

        Decided to make a dedicated page for this.

        https://stopomarchy.neocities.org/

        purple@nya.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #79
        @brennan@social.lol https://oligarchy.in/ exposes all the 'bad' bullshit the devs post. fuck dhh
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        • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

          Decided to make a dedicated page for this.

          https://stopomarchy.neocities.org/

          kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #80

          @brennan *looks at
          Omarchy patrons page*

          Goddammit. _Patrick_

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          • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

            @parabellum_linux_project I can see you do not understand what's going on here still.

            Why would DHH's reputation need to be changed and overhauled? Because he is an extremist. That is being funded. Omarchy is he way of normalizing his politics. That is what is so insidious about it.

            Do you think a project run by someone who wrote those essays and published that doctrine is just neutral open-source infrastructure? If yes, we disagree on the facts. If no, then we’re arguing about degrees of complicity, not whether there’s a link.

            parabellum_linux_project@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #81

            Framing this as "complicity vs agreement" ignores open-source fundamentals. Licenses exist to separate code execution from individual ideology. Technical infrastructure operates strictly on code quality, security, and license compliance, not the author's personal politics. Pragmatism is not endorsement.
            (Note: I heavily criticize Omarchy's bloat and architecture myself—I judge it as a maintainer on code quality, and it simply falls short technically.)

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            • cwilcox808@c.imC cwilcox808@c.im

              @db
              Lumping someone who expressed mainstream Catholic positions in with fascists and white supremacists hardly seems fair.
              @brennan

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              #82

              @cwilcox808 @db @brennan

              And that does not make you wonder whether mainstream Catholic positions are evil?

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              • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                @brennan

                Nice. A great list of fascist supporters and enablers to avoid or deprecate 🙂👍

                What's the story with Framework? They did sponsor DHH and caught a lot of heat from it. Did they change their minds? 🫤

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                #83

                @simonzerafa@infosec.exchange @brennan@social.lol It is likely due to their use and sponsorship of hyprland, which is run by equally horrible people.

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                • parabellum_linux_project@mastodon.socialP parabellum_linux_project@mastodon.social

                  @brennan Translating it yourself is probably too much work, so I'll keep it in English:
                  As a maintainer, I don't personally like DHH or Omarchy either. But you dismantled your own thesis by constantly shifting goalposts from 'political front' to 'insidious reputation washing.' Believe whatever conspiracy you want, but open source runs on code, not blog posts

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                  #84

                  @parabellum_linux_project

                  get lost, fascist apologist

                  your shady argumentation tricks and wordplays and semantic manglings are not working and everyone can clearly see that you're here just to spread fud

                  @brennan

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                  • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

                    Decided to make a dedicated page for this.

                    https://stopomarchy.neocities.org/

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                    #85

                    @brennan@social.lol Thanks for making this. People need to be informed, especially with the crazy hype machine that has spun up in places like YouTube. Not only is it made by the known piece of shit DHH, it is just a collection of vibe coded dotfiles. It isn't even notable on a technical level.

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                    • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

                      Decided to make a dedicated page for this.

                      https://stopomarchy.neocities.org/

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                      #86

                      @brennan 'the far-right "grooming gangs" narrative, a claim official child sexual abuse data does not support'

                      The government's own audit and review says this is due to lack of data, not conclusive data that proves the opposite.

                      Why make claims that are so easily refutable?

                      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/685559d05225e4ed0bf3ce54/National_Audit_on_Group-based_Child_Sexual_Exploitation_and_Abuse.pdf

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                      • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

                        Decided to make a dedicated page for this.

                        https://stopomarchy.neocities.org/

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                        #87

                        @brennan cancelling my 1password account as soon as practicable

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                        • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

                          Decided to make a dedicated page for this.

                          https://stopomarchy.neocities.org/

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                          #88

                          @brennan Anynchance you could edit the boycott list to have alternatives? For example I’ve got a tiny digit ocean presence I’d like to move but don’t have an alternative.

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                          • ojrask@piipitin.fiO ojrask@piipitin.fi

                            @parabellum_linux_project

                            get lost, fascist apologist

                            your shady argumentation tricks and wordplays and semantic manglings are not working and everyone can clearly see that you're here just to spread fud

                            @brennan

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                            #89

                            @ojrask @brennan Accusing people of being 'fascists' just for focusing on code rather than personal views is pure ad hominem.

                            I kept my critique civil and technical, while you resorted to insults. Calling names doesn't make you right; it just shows you ran out of technical arguments.

                            When you have an actual code rebuttal, I'm here.

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                            • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

                              Decided to make a dedicated page for this.

                              https://stopomarchy.neocities.org/

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                              #90

                              @brennan "Despite this, more than a dozen top tech executives and corporations have pledged millions to the Omarchy / Omacom Foundation."

                              I'd say they're doing it because of this, not despite it. Those you listed have a vested interest ln maintaining the status quo 😞

                              Great site though, thanks for making it!

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                              • parabellum_linux_project@mastodon.socialP parabellum_linux_project@mastodon.social

                                @ojrask @brennan Accusing people of being 'fascists' just for focusing on code rather than personal views is pure ad hominem.

                                I kept my critique civil and technical, while you resorted to insults. Calling names doesn't make you right; it just shows you ran out of technical arguments.

                                When you have an actual code rebuttal, I'm here.

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                                #91

                                @parabellum_linux_project

                                I admire your forbearance. There is no point of talking to them, it’s like arguing with the brickwall.

                                They are not conspiracy geeks, though. They are mediocrity cult who literally live in pure hatred and abhorrence.

                                @ojrask @brennan

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                                • mudasobwa@mastodon.socialM mudasobwa@mastodon.social

                                  @parabellum_linux_project

                                  I admire your forbearance. There is no point of talking to them, it’s like arguing with the brickwall.

                                  They are not conspiracy geeks, though. They are mediocrity cult who literally live in pure hatred and abhorrence.

                                  @ojrask @brennan

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                                  #92

                                  @mudasobwa I love people, I love the world. I am a deep optimist. I am vocally against a small group of weird guys who have harmful beliefs.

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                                  • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

                                    @mudasobwa I love people, I love the world. I am a deep optimist. I am vocally against a small group of weird guys who have harmful beliefs.

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                                    #93

                                    @brennan since when exactly producing a software and giving it people for free is a harmful belief?

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                                    • mudasobwa@mastodon.socialM mudasobwa@mastodon.social

                                      @brennan since when exactly producing a software and giving it people for free is a harmful belief?

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                                      #94

                                      @mudasobwa well,
                                      Omarchy is actually incredibly insecure and unsafe software due to being vibecoded.

                                      https://0xcc.io/posts/omarchy-root-creds/
                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/omarchy/comments/1og2v39/major_security_issue_on_omarchy/
                                      https://happyfellow.bearblog.dev/merchants-of-insecurity/

                                      but that's not what this is really about. You are playing defense for millionaires that don't give a shit about you because you think you're in a culture war.

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                                      • brennan@social.lolB brennan@social.lol

                                        @mudasobwa well,
                                        Omarchy is actually incredibly insecure and unsafe software due to being vibecoded.

                                        https://0xcc.io/posts/omarchy-root-creds/
                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/omarchy/comments/1og2v39/major_security_issue_on_omarchy/
                                        https://happyfellow.bearblog.dev/merchants-of-insecurity/

                                        but that's not what this is really about. You are playing defense for millionaires that don't give a shit about you because you think you're in a culture war.

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                                        #95

                                        @brennan I could not care less whether somebody is giving a shit about me or not, I am the only one responsible for giving shit about myself.

                                        I play defence every time I see people harassed for what they say and not for what they do.

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                                          #96

                                          @brennan of course, this is a weird question.

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