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RE: https://defcon.social/@retsel/117242405058623746
@parabellum_linux_project no, it didn't. DHH said the money is going to FOSS centralization and marketing: https://social.lol/@retsel@defcon.social/117242405123511625
There's no conspiracy theory here. Giving money to a known problematic figure like DHH (who has been written about for years in this light) normalizes the destructive and harmful politics he is a vocal supporter of.
You just shifted your claim from a 'political front' to acknowledging the money is for FOSS marketing and code.
As a distro maintainer, I know marketing and scaling open source requires serious funding. You are conflating your subjective dislike of DHH with a conspiracy theory about 'funding extremism -
You just shifted your claim from a 'political front' to acknowledging the money is for FOSS marketing and code.
As a distro maintainer, I know marketing and scaling open source requires serious funding. You are conflating your subjective dislike of DHH with a conspiracy theory about 'funding extremism@parabellum_linux_project the marketing is a political front. as I explain on my site, this is going towards efforts of reputation-washing DHH and repairing his image.
You are clearly using an LLM to write these replies, and I appreciate it. You've given me a great back-and-forth which demonstrates why this is such an existential problem.
Also, everything I have been writing to you is on the site I made. Try reading before typing
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@parabellum_linux_project the marketing is a political front. as I explain on my site, this is going towards efforts of reputation-washing DHH and repairing his image.
You are clearly using an LLM to write these replies, and I appreciate it. You've given me a great back-and-forth which demonstrates why this is such an existential problem.
Also, everything I have been writing to you is on the site I made. Try reading before typing
@brennan The arguments are entirely mine—I just use an LLM for translation since English isn't my native language. If you have an issue with that, we can easily continue in Turkish and you can handle the translation yourself.
My point stands: constantly moving your goalposts from 'funding extremism' to 'reputation washing' doesn't change open-source reality. Attacking translation tools instead of addressing FOSS economics just proves you ran out of valid arguments
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@brennan The arguments are entirely mine—I just use an LLM for translation since English isn't my native language. If you have an issue with that, we can easily continue in Turkish and you can handle the translation yourself.
My point stands: constantly moving your goalposts from 'funding extremism' to 'reputation washing' doesn't change open-source reality. Attacking translation tools instead of addressing FOSS economics just proves you ran out of valid arguments️@parabellum_linux_project I can see you do not understand what's going on here still.
Why would DHH's reputation need to be changed and overhauled? Because he is an extremist. That is being funded. Omarchy is he way of normalizing his politics. That is what is so insidious about it.
Do you think a project run by someone who wrote those essays and published that doctrine is just neutral open-source infrastructure? If yes, we disagree on the facts. If no, then we’re arguing about degrees of complicity, not whether there’s a link.
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@parabellum_linux_project I can see you do not understand what's going on here still.
Why would DHH's reputation need to be changed and overhauled? Because he is an extremist. That is being funded. Omarchy is he way of normalizing his politics. That is what is so insidious about it.
Do you think a project run by someone who wrote those essays and published that doctrine is just neutral open-source infrastructure? If yes, we disagree on the facts. If no, then we’re arguing about degrees of complicity, not whether there’s a link.
Argümanlar bana ait, çeviriyle uğraşmamak için Türkçe yazıyorum; artık çeviriyi sen yaparsın.
Bir geliştirici olarak ben de DHH'i veya Omarchy'yi kişisel olarak sevmiyorum. Ama senin iddialarını ben değil, süreç içinde sürekli hedef değiştirerek sen kendin çürüttün. 'Siyasi paravan'dan başlayıp 'sinsi itibar aklamaya' kadar geriledin. İstediğin komploya inanabilirsin ama açık kaynak dünyası blog yazılarıyla değil, kodla yürür. -
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@brennan As a mere user with little background knowledge, I got lost on bullet 3 of the initial page because I did not realize that DHH is the Omarchy founder. So weave that in for the unfamiliar folks like myself. Thanks for bringing attention to this. I understood that programming either attracts sick people, but I didn't realize that they'd grouped together. Clearly DHH needs to go and meet the newcomers to London, and probably a few other things.
Words of caution, but not discouragement: Sometime before the 2024 election acceptance in the the US started being co-opted as a bludgeon (by opportunists who are not accepting). The accusation of intolerance was becoming just as corrosive as hate itself, and had I been less wise, I would have thought tolerance was a sham. So make sure to pave a golden path to repentance for these people that isn't a mere show. As Sun Tsu pointed out: "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free." Art of War 7:36. Had I lived a slightly different life, I could have turned out to be an intolerant jerk myself.
Good work!
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@brennan As a mere user with little background knowledge, I got lost on bullet 3 of the initial page because I did not realize that DHH is the Omarchy founder. So weave that in for the unfamiliar folks like myself. Thanks for bringing attention to this. I understood that programming either attracts sick people, but I didn't realize that they'd grouped together. Clearly DHH needs to go and meet the newcomers to London, and probably a few other things.
Words of caution, but not discouragement: Sometime before the 2024 election acceptance in the the US started being co-opted as a bludgeon (by opportunists who are not accepting). The accusation of intolerance was becoming just as corrosive as hate itself, and had I been less wise, I would have thought tolerance was a sham. So make sure to pave a golden path to repentance for these people that isn't a mere show. As Sun Tsu pointed out: "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free." Art of War 7:36. Had I lived a slightly different life, I could have turned out to be an intolerant jerk myself.
Good work!
@atoms4justice thank you for the feedback, i sincerely appreciate it and will tweak the beginning to explain better
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@parabellum_linux_project I can see you do not understand what's going on here still.
Why would DHH's reputation need to be changed and overhauled? Because he is an extremist. That is being funded. Omarchy is he way of normalizing his politics. That is what is so insidious about it.
Do you think a project run by someone who wrote those essays and published that doctrine is just neutral open-source infrastructure? If yes, we disagree on the facts. If no, then we’re arguing about degrees of complicity, not whether there’s a link.
@brennan Translating it yourself is probably too much work, so I'll keep it in English:
As a maintainer, I don't personally like DHH or Omarchy either. But you dismantled your own thesis by constantly shifting goalposts from 'political front' to 'insidious reputation washing.' Believe whatever conspiracy you want, but open source runs on code, not blog posts -
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@brennan@social.lol https://oligarchy.in/ exposes all the 'bad' bullshit the devs post. fuck dhh -
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@brennan *looks at
Omarchy patrons page*Goddammit. _Patrick_
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@parabellum_linux_project I can see you do not understand what's going on here still.
Why would DHH's reputation need to be changed and overhauled? Because he is an extremist. That is being funded. Omarchy is he way of normalizing his politics. That is what is so insidious about it.
Do you think a project run by someone who wrote those essays and published that doctrine is just neutral open-source infrastructure? If yes, we disagree on the facts. If no, then we’re arguing about degrees of complicity, not whether there’s a link.
Framing this as "complicity vs agreement" ignores open-source fundamentals. Licenses exist to separate code execution from individual ideology. Technical infrastructure operates strictly on code quality, security, and license compliance, not the author's personal politics. Pragmatism is not endorsement.
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And that does not make you wonder whether mainstream Catholic positions are evil?
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Nice. A great list of fascist supporters and enablers to avoid or deprecate
What's the story with Framework? They did sponsor DHH and caught a lot of heat from it. Did they change their minds? 🫤
@simonzerafa@infosec.exchange @brennan@social.lol It is likely due to their use and sponsorship of hyprland, which is run by equally horrible people.
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@brennan Translating it yourself is probably too much work, so I'll keep it in English:
As a maintainer, I don't personally like DHH or Omarchy either. But you dismantled your own thesis by constantly shifting goalposts from 'political front' to 'insidious reputation washing.' Believe whatever conspiracy you want, but open source runs on code, not blog postsget lost, fascist apologist
your shady argumentation tricks and wordplays and semantic manglings are not working and everyone can clearly see that you're here just to spread fud
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@brennan@social.lol Thanks for making this. People need to be informed, especially with the crazy hype machine that has spun up in places like YouTube. Not only is it made by the known piece of shit DHH, it is just a collection of vibe coded dotfiles. It isn't even notable on a technical level.
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@brennan 'the far-right "grooming gangs" narrative, a claim official child sexual abuse data does not support'
The government's own audit and review says this is due to lack of data, not conclusive data that proves the opposite.
Why make claims that are so easily refutable?
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@brennan cancelling my 1password account as soon as practicable
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@brennan Anynchance you could edit the boycott list to have alternatives? For example I’ve got a tiny digit ocean presence I’d like to move but don’t have an alternative.
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get lost, fascist apologist
your shady argumentation tricks and wordplays and semantic manglings are not working and everyone can clearly see that you're here just to spread fud
@ojrask @brennan Accusing people of being 'fascists' just for focusing on code rather than personal views is pure ad hominem.
I kept my critique civil and technical, while you resorted to insults. Calling names doesn't make you right; it just shows you ran out of technical arguments.
When you have an actual code rebuttal, I'm here.
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@brennan "Despite this, more than a dozen top tech executives and corporations have pledged millions to the Omarchy / Omacom Foundation."
I'd say they're doing it because of this, not despite it. Those you listed have a vested interest ln maintaining the status quo
Great site though, thanks for making it!
