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  • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

    Hi Everyone!

    First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

    Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

    #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

    chriszx@social.vivaldi.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #17

    @sophiekaz I would second @Delta and @arcanechat, my experience is these have been so easy to use and based on email, which is a great use of long standing technology we're all familiar with.

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    • dgoldsmith@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #18

      @jeridansky @sophiekaz Also worth mentioning https://delta.chat which is decentralized.

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      • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

        Hi Everyone!

        First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

        Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

        #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

        tantramar@zeroes.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #19

        @sophiekaz Apple Messages where possible; Signal where necessary. Signal is very good. There are no other options on the table here; WhatsApp, WeChat are a hard no-go from me. 🤷‍♂️

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        • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

          Hi Everyone!

          First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

          Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

          #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

          drjlecter@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
          drjlecter@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #20

          @sophiekaz I've gotten quite a few of my friends to use Signal now. Family is an uphill battle. I got sister and mother to use Telegram to communicate with me a few years back (they still use whatsapp for all of their friends and colleagues 😬) and now I feel bad for being a "well actually" guy to make them use Signal instead 🤣

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          • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

            Hi Everyone!

            First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

            Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

            #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

            sindum@mstdn.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
            sindum@mstdn.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @sophiekaz Signal for general connections to friends. DeltaChat to ad hoc groups if not all is on Signal. DeltaChat is ultra simpel and easy onboarding. I'm s great fan of DeltaChat.

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            • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

              Hi Everyone!

              First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

              Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

              #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

              raven@fedi.atR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #22

              @sophiekaz
              signal, threema

              #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

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              • twoowls73@mastodon.scotT twoowls73@mastodon.scot

                @sophiekaz Hi! I use Signal, but it is an uphill struggle to get family members etc. on board.

                lisagetspolitik@union.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #23

                @twoowls73 @sophiekaz I agree! I tried to get my brother and his family to leave FB messenger but his response is "it's pretty integrated into Taiwain society" (he lives in Taiwan) so it's a non starter sadly.

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                • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                  @twoowls73 thank you! I thought convincing everyone to switch would be the biggest drawback, but honestly I'm starting to see it as part of the mission. One conversation at a time 🙂

                  albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #24

                  @sophiekaz @twoowls73

                  One family or friends gathering at a time: get whole groups to change on the spot, then continue using the Signal group for everything so that it becomes the main channel.

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                  • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                    Hi Everyone!

                    First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

                    Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

                    #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

                    stevejohnson42@nerdculture.deS This user is from outside of this forum
                    stevejohnson42@nerdculture.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #25

                    @sophiekaz - not sure if it is the best - but I have tried to get people migrated to Telegram in my circles

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                    • opalmirror@hachyderm.ioO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #26

                      @Armavica @sophiekaz very helpful link, thanks! Fwiw spouse and I use Telegram, and immediate household uses Discord. Tried Matrix for a time and when it worked it was good, but was difficult to keep working/stable.

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                      • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                        Hi Everyone!

                        First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

                        Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

                        #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

                        borisbarbour@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #27

                        @sophiekaz

                        +1 for Signal. It's almost certainly the most secure, and is going from strength to strength. Really quite reliable.

                        Doubtless I was lucky, but the 3-4 groups I needed to move were very happy to do so if someone else set it up.

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                        • tsvenson@mastodon.onlineT tsvenson@mastodon.online

                          @Armavica @sophiekaz

                          Yes, Signal is US based - but a Nonprofit 501c3 Foundation. That makes a lot of difference compared to a For-profit company. I think this https://signal.org/workworkwork/ page gives a good summary of what it stand for, and have the track record to show it.

                          coffee2di4@glasgow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #28

                          @tsvenson
                          Thanks for the link, they include a few other useful comparisons too.
                          @Armavica @sophiekaz

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                          • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                            Hi Everyone!

                            First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

                            Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

                            #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

                            gertvk@mastodon.nzG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #29

                            Hi @sophiekaz
                            Look into #deltachat !!
                            https://delta.chat/en/download
                            Best option IMHO !!!!

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                            • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                              Hi Everyone!

                              First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

                              Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

                              #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

                              adbenitez@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #30

                              @sophiekaz I recommend you Delta Chat, it has a super easy onboarding! easier than WhatsApp, Signal etc. no phone number or anything required for registration, just set a name and go

                              it also has in-chat mini-apps and tools like shopping lists, collaborative notepads, mini-games etc.

                              it is decentralized, open source and it also empowers you with multi-homing (and easy migration of servers without losing your profile and chats)

                              it is ideal for family and friends

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                              • nickrauchen@c.imN nickrauchen@c.im

                                @sophiekaz

                                From a prior poster on this feed. I found it useful and shared it with my friends...

                                #Fedi #Fediverse

                                adbenitez@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #31

                                @nickrauchen your poster is misleading, it says "join the fediverse" and then you recommend Signal, a centralized service, that is not federated in any way, please instead recommend something that is federated like #DeltaChat and/or #xmpp

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                                • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                                  Hi Everyone!

                                  First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

                                  Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

                                  #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

                                  raphm@mamot.frR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #32

                                  @sophiekaz

                                  If I didn't know #deltachat I would have recommended signal, but since I discovered a decentralized messaging app that works just the same I don't see any good reasons to recommend signal now... Signal uses servers of (and therefore gives money to) amazon, microsoft, etc.

                                  I made my family move from telegram/whatsapp to signal a few years ago.
                                  I'm now planning to convince them to move to deltachat 🙂

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                                  • adbenitez@mastodon.socialA adbenitez@mastodon.social

                                    @nickrauchen your poster is misleading, it says "join the fediverse" and then you recommend Signal, a centralized service, that is not federated in any way, please instead recommend something that is federated like #DeltaChat and/or #xmpp

                                    leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #33

                                    @adbenitez @nickrauchen
                                    🙂

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                                    • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                                      @adbenitez @nickrauchen
                                      🙂

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                                      #34

                                      @leanderlindahl MUCH BETTER!!!

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                                      • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                                        @adbenitez @nickrauchen
                                        🙂

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                                        #35

                                        @leanderlindahl @adbenitez @nickrauchen

                                        Stealing this image. Not sorry.

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