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  • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

    Hi Everyone!

    First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

    Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

    #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

    sindum@mstdn.dkS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21

    @sophiekaz Signal for general connections to friends. DeltaChat to ad hoc groups if not all is on Signal. DeltaChat is ultra simpel and easy onboarding. I'm s great fan of DeltaChat.

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    • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

      Hi Everyone!

      First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

      Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

      #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

      raven@fedi.atR This user is from outside of this forum
      raven@fedi.atR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      @sophiekaz
      signal, threema

      #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

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      • twoowls73@mastodon.scotT twoowls73@mastodon.scot

        @sophiekaz Hi! I use Signal, but it is an uphill struggle to get family members etc. on board.

        lisagetspolitik@union.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #23

        @twoowls73 @sophiekaz I agree! I tried to get my brother and his family to leave FB messenger but his response is "it's pretty integrated into Taiwain society" (he lives in Taiwan) so it's a non starter sadly.

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        • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

          @twoowls73 thank you! I thought convincing everyone to switch would be the biggest drawback, but honestly I'm starting to see it as part of the mission. One conversation at a time 🙂

          albertcardona@mathstodon.xyzA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #24

          @sophiekaz @twoowls73

          One family or friends gathering at a time: get whole groups to change on the spot, then continue using the Signal group for everything so that it becomes the main channel.

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          • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

            Hi Everyone!

            First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

            Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

            #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

            stevejohnson42@nerdculture.deS This user is from outside of this forum
            stevejohnson42@nerdculture.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #25

            @sophiekaz - not sure if it is the best - but I have tried to get people migrated to Telegram in my circles

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            • opalmirror@hachyderm.ioO This user is from outside of this forum
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              #26

              @Armavica @sophiekaz very helpful link, thanks! Fwiw spouse and I use Telegram, and immediate household uses Discord. Tried Matrix for a time and when it worked it was good, but was difficult to keep working/stable.

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              • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                Hi Everyone!

                First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

                Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

                #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

                borisbarbour@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #27

                @sophiekaz

                +1 for Signal. It's almost certainly the most secure, and is going from strength to strength. Really quite reliable.

                Doubtless I was lucky, but the 3-4 groups I needed to move were very happy to do so if someone else set it up.

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                • tsvenson@mastodon.onlineT tsvenson@mastodon.online

                  @Armavica @sophiekaz

                  Yes, Signal is US based - but a Nonprofit 501c3 Foundation. That makes a lot of difference compared to a For-profit company. I think this https://signal.org/workworkwork/ page gives a good summary of what it stand for, and have the track record to show it.

                  coffee2di4@glasgow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #28

                  @tsvenson
                  Thanks for the link, they include a few other useful comparisons too.
                  @Armavica @sophiekaz

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                  • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                    Hi Everyone!

                    First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

                    Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

                    #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

                    gertvk@mastodon.nzG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #29

                    Hi @sophiekaz
                    Look into #deltachat !!
                    https://delta.chat/en/download
                    Best option IMHO !!!!

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                    • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                      Hi Everyone!

                      First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

                      Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

                      #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

                      adbenitez@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #30

                      @sophiekaz I recommend you Delta Chat, it has a super easy onboarding! easier than WhatsApp, Signal etc. no phone number or anything required for registration, just set a name and go

                      it also has in-chat mini-apps and tools like shopping lists, collaborative notepads, mini-games etc.

                      it is decentralized, open source and it also empowers you with multi-homing (and easy migration of servers without losing your profile and chats)

                      it is ideal for family and friends

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                      • nickrauchen@c.imN nickrauchen@c.im

                        @sophiekaz

                        From a prior poster on this feed. I found it useful and shared it with my friends...

                        #Fedi #Fediverse

                        adbenitez@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #31

                        @nickrauchen your poster is misleading, it says "join the fediverse" and then you recommend Signal, a centralized service, that is not federated in any way, please instead recommend something that is federated like #DeltaChat and/or #xmpp

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                        • sophiekaz@mastodon.socialS sophiekaz@mastodon.social

                          Hi Everyone!

                          First, a huge thank you for the incredibly warm welcome to the Fediverse. The kindness from this community has been overwhelming, and such a contrast to the platforms I've left behind.

                          Now, I've gone down a total rabbit hole investigating more ethical tech. I've just realised that if I'm deleting Meta from my life, WhatsApp should probably go too. I'd love to know what you think are the best alternatives. Signal? Matrix/Element?

                          #Privacy #DeleteMeta #WhatsApp

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                          #32

                          @sophiekaz

                          If I didn't know #deltachat I would have recommended signal, but since I discovered a decentralized messaging app that works just the same I don't see any good reasons to recommend signal now... Signal uses servers of (and therefore gives money to) amazon, microsoft, etc.

                          I made my family move from telegram/whatsapp to signal a few years ago.
                          I'm now planning to convince them to move to deltachat 🙂

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                          • adbenitez@mastodon.socialA adbenitez@mastodon.social

                            @nickrauchen your poster is misleading, it says "join the fediverse" and then you recommend Signal, a centralized service, that is not federated in any way, please instead recommend something that is federated like #DeltaChat and/or #xmpp

                            leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #33

                            @adbenitez @nickrauchen
                            🙂

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                            • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                              @adbenitez @nickrauchen
                              🙂

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                              #34

                              @leanderlindahl MUCH BETTER!!!

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                              • leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.seL leanderlindahl@social.folkdata.se

                                @adbenitez @nickrauchen
                                🙂

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                                #35

                                @leanderlindahl @adbenitez @nickrauchen

                                Stealing this image. Not sorry.

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