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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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    #62

    @CiaraNi
    Omlyd, direkte oversat

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      @tml @hanscees This is interesting! I freely admit that I just use the word Umlaut casually for any old two dots I see over any old letter, the way I say 'astronomical' for things that are not even that big.

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      #63

      @CiaraNi @tml I had no idea about the plurality thing of an umlaut. But does that mean motorhead is plural? It is very laut and I would say even umlaut!

      https://youtu.be/Qa1wdUkeuvE

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        #64
        The one positive from the fascist's reign is that he has united the rest of the world in a way rarely seen.

        As a fellow threatenee, I feel close to Denmark in a way i never have.

        We have "elbows up"(a hockey reference) as our rallying cry. Do you have anything similar?
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        • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

          @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

          Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

          But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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          #65

          @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

          And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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            #66

            @CiaraNi
            One of my many cheeky pleasures is to deliberately pronounce the umlauts in the band name "Mötley Crüe".

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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              #67

              @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                #68

                @CiaraNi
                cedilla would like a word.

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete. Instead, here's a picture I took of a bridge because it had splendid umlauts.

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                  #69

                  @CiaraNi Me, too, regarding "nothing useful to add" — no matter how horrified I am.

                  Very cool umlauts!

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                    #70

                    @CiaraNi Nor in the French ë/ï/ü – the trema (l’accent tréma)

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                    • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                      @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                      And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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                      #71

                      @mlazz @tml @CiaraNi why the name that reminds me of very thin stuff coming out of a colon. But we call this trema in Dutch
                      geëvenaard

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                        #72

                        @CiaraNi

                        It would be impossible to type on a US keyboard, not to talk about the crime known as 7-bit ASCII.

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                        • rvedotrc@tech.lgbtR rvedotrc@tech.lgbt

                          @CiaraNi

                          acuté
                          gràve
                          circûmflex
                          çedilla

                          I see what you mean, ümlaut would work so much better

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                          #73

                          @rvedotrc @CiaraNi There’s an actual haček in the word haček! (But that’s the Czech name for the diacritic, I think it’s called caron in English)

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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                            #74

                            @CiaraNi @shivers @psneeze Greetings from Germany!
                            It is not "about sound", rather "around sound" as in "something is around the sound" (not as in "surround sound", sadly).

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                            • id1om@mastodonapp.ukI id1om@mastodonapp.uk

                              @CiaraNi
                              cedilla would like a word.

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                              #75

                              @id1om I would like to have a word with these diacriticless diacritics

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                              • christinemalec@mstdn.caC christinemalec@mstdn.ca

                                @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

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                                #76

                                @ChristineMalec My school German hangs on in snippets, but the pronunciation difference with or without an umlaut is long gone from my brain, so I don't know either. Maybe somebody else can help us here.

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                                • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                                  @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                                  And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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                                  #77

                                  @mlazz @tml @hanscees Yes, diaeresis - the darling of the New Yorker

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                    #78

                                    @CiaraNi It really does seem like a severely missed opportunity.

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                                    • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                                      @CiaraNi
                                      One of my many cheeky pleasures is to deliberately pronounce the umlauts in the band name "Mötley Crüe".

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                                      #79

                                      @mlazz The kind of nice little pleasure that makes our personal worlds go around.

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                                      • christinemalec@mstdn.caC christinemalec@mstdn.ca

                                        @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

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                                        #80

                                        @ChristineMalec @CiaraNi

                                        ü is a sound we don't have in English. To make it, say a long E sound (the sound in "leek" or "wheel") but with your lips rounded as if you were saying a u sound. It's hard; you'll have to overcome programs your brain learned when you were a toddler to make the inside of your mouth try to make the 'e' sound while your lips are trying to make the 'u' sound. That combination makes the ü.

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                                        • jeridansky@sfba.socialJ jeridansky@sfba.social

                                          @CiaraNi Me, too, regarding "nothing useful to add" — no matter how horrified I am.

                                          Very cool umlauts!

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                                          #81

                                          @jeridansky It's all awful and exhausting. Thank Odin for nice umlauts and colourful dahlias and lovely lichen

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