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  3. I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete.

I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete.

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  • frost_farm@pixelfed.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #64
    The one positive from the fascist's reign is that he has united the rest of the world in a way rarely seen.

    As a fellow threatenee, I feel close to Denmark in a way i never have.

    We have "elbows up"(a hockey reference) as our rallying cry. Do you have anything similar?
    ciarani@mastodon.greenC frost_farm@pixelfed.socialF 2 Replies Last reply
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    • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

      @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

      Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

      But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

      mlazz@aus.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #65

      @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

      And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

        mlazz@aus.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #66

        @CiaraNi
        One of my many cheeky pleasures is to deliberately pronounce the umlauts in the band name "Mötley Crüe".

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

          christinemalec@mstdn.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #67

          @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

          ciarani@mastodon.greenC stevegis_ssg@mas.toS henkvandereijk@mastodon.greenH datenhalde@nrw.socialD 4 Replies Last reply
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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

            id1om@mastodonapp.ukI This user is from outside of this forum
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            #68

            @CiaraNi
            cedilla would like a word.

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete. Instead, here's a picture I took of a bridge because it had splendid umlauts.

              jeridansky@sfba.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #69

              @CiaraNi Me, too, regarding "nothing useful to add" — no matter how horrified I am.

              Very cool umlauts!

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

                baoigheallain@mastodon.ieB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #70

                @CiaraNi Nor in the French ë/ï/ü – the trema (l’accent tréma)

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                • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                  @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                  And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

                  hanscees@ieji.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #71

                  @mlazz @tml @CiaraNi why the name that reminds me of very thin stuff coming out of a colon. But we call this trema in Dutch
                  geëvenaard

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

                    airwhale@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #72

                    @CiaraNi

                    It would be impossible to type on a US keyboard, not to talk about the crime known as 7-bit ASCII.

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                    • rvedotrc@tech.lgbtR rvedotrc@tech.lgbt

                      @CiaraNi

                      acuté
                      gràve
                      circûmflex
                      çedilla

                      I see what you mean, ümlaut would work so much better

                      jenskutilek@typo.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #73

                      @rvedotrc @CiaraNi There’s an actual haček in the word haček! (But that’s the Czech name for the diacritic, I think it’s called caron in English)

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

                        fennek@cyberplace.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #74

                        @CiaraNi @shivers @psneeze Greetings from Germany!
                        It is not "about sound", rather "around sound" as in "something is around the sound" (not as in "surround sound", sadly).

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                        • id1om@mastodonapp.ukI id1om@mastodonapp.uk

                          @CiaraNi
                          cedilla would like a word.

                          ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #75

                          @id1om I would like to have a word with these diacriticless diacritics

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                          • christinemalec@mstdn.caC christinemalec@mstdn.ca

                            @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

                            ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #76

                            @ChristineMalec My school German hangs on in snippets, but the pronunciation difference with or without an umlaut is long gone from my brain, so I don't know either. Maybe somebody else can help us here.

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                            • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                              @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                              And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

                              ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #77

                              @mlazz @tml @hanscees Yes, diaeresis - the darling of the New Yorker

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

                                courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #78

                                @CiaraNi It really does seem like a severely missed opportunity.

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                                • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                                  @CiaraNi
                                  One of my many cheeky pleasures is to deliberately pronounce the umlauts in the band name "Mötley Crüe".

                                  ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #79

                                  @mlazz The kind of nice little pleasure that makes our personal worlds go around.

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                                  • christinemalec@mstdn.caC christinemalec@mstdn.ca

                                    @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

                                    stevegis_ssg@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #80

                                    @ChristineMalec @CiaraNi

                                    ü is a sound we don't have in English. To make it, say a long E sound (the sound in "leek" or "wheel") but with your lips rounded as if you were saying a u sound. It's hard; you'll have to overcome programs your brain learned when you were a toddler to make the inside of your mouth try to make the 'e' sound while your lips are trying to make the 'u' sound. That combination makes the ü.

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                                    • jeridansky@sfba.socialJ jeridansky@sfba.social

                                      @CiaraNi Me, too, regarding "nothing useful to add" — no matter how horrified I am.

                                      Very cool umlauts!

                                      ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #81

                                      @jeridansky It's all awful and exhausting. Thank Odin for nice umlauts and colourful dahlias and lovely lichen

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                                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                        @ChristineMalec My school German hangs on in snippets, but the pronunciation difference with or without an umlaut is long gone from my brain, so I don't know either. Maybe somebody else can help us here.

                                        courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #82

                                        @CiaraNi @ChristineMalec If you vocalize the English letter "e" and don't change anything about the position of your teeth and tongue BUT narrow your lips as though vocalizing an "ooo" sound at the same time, you'll come extremely close to the German pronunciation of the "ü." ☺️🖖

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                                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                          @ChristineMalec My school German hangs on in snippets, but the pronunciation difference with or without an umlaut is long gone from my brain, so I don't know either. Maybe somebody else can help us here.

                                          saederup@helvede.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #83

                                          @CiaraNi @ChristineMalec The ü is pronounced like y in Danish. In my experience as a teacher of Danish to foreigners native English speakers find it hard to pronounce at first but basically just start saying eeee and then round your lips and the sound then changes to y. Don't change anything else in or around your mouth, just the lips.

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