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  • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

    @marginalia yeah. Good thing I have just been trying them out. Time to move on.

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    #3

    @marginalia just sent this.

    https://mastodon.social/@knowprose/117525202636993994

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    • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

      I've watched enough documentaries about cults to have serious concerns about the culture at #Proton. Going full send on AI seems spectacularly tone deaf given their user base and mission statement, but how they're doing it is some straight Theranos shit.

      https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

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      #4

      It's just such frustratingly pointless self-sabotage. They had a good product and a competent team already with tons of goodwill. That's momentum.

      Velocity is for startups. @protonprivacy could have literally done *nothing* and they'd be able to carve out a comfortable niche for themselves. They could have literally just sat on their asses, twiddled their thumbs, and raked in money and then Andy could have made like Gabe Newell and bought a yacht in a few decades if he'd had any patience.

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      • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

        It's just such frustratingly pointless self-sabotage. They had a good product and a competent team already with tons of goodwill. That's momentum.

        Velocity is for startups. @protonprivacy could have literally done *nothing* and they'd be able to carve out a comfortable niche for themselves. They could have literally just sat on their asses, twiddled their thumbs, and raked in money and then Andy could have made like Gabe Newell and bought a yacht in a few decades if he'd had any patience.

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        #5

        @protonprivacy Now as it stands, I can't imagine the any board that would let Andy stay for much longer. This is a bigger trainwreck than they had over in Spain.

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        • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

          I've watched enough documentaries about cults to have serious concerns about the culture at #Proton. Going full send on AI seems spectacularly tone deaf given their user base and mission statement, but how they're doing it is some straight Theranos shit.

          https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

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          #6

          @marginalia This is such a bummer. It makes me question the reliability and soundness of all of their products. I wish I could just host my own email server and still function in the real world.

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          • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

            I've watched enough documentaries about cults to have serious concerns about the culture at #Proton. Going full send on AI seems spectacularly tone deaf given their user base and mission statement, but how they're doing it is some straight Theranos shit.

            https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

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            #7

            @marginalia

            Sans paywall:

            https://archive.ph/74aiR

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            • levzadov@kolektiva.socialL levzadov@kolektiva.social

              @marginalia

              Sans paywall:

              https://archive.ph/74aiR

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              #8

              @LevZadov Hm still seems to have a paywall at the end. That's a first.

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              • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

                I've watched enough documentaries about cults to have serious concerns about the culture at #Proton. Going full send on AI seems spectacularly tone deaf given their user base and mission statement, but how they're doing it is some straight Theranos shit.

                https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

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                #9

                @marginalia
                Wow.
                That's some serious Trump-class stupid right there. Totally aside from the toxic workplace culture, that AI mania will sink them.

                Coming soon, a headline along the lines of "Protonmail hacked; millions of subscriber emails stolen." Followed soon by "Protonmail goes bust after security fiasco."

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                • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

                  I've watched enough documentaries about cults to have serious concerns about the culture at #Proton. Going full send on AI seems spectacularly tone deaf given their user base and mission statement, but how they're doing it is some straight Theranos shit.

                  https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

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                  #10

                  @marginalia Welp, I cancelled my Proton VPN and paid-tier email, after Yen came out as a Trump-humper. Looks like I'll need to start focusing on ramping-up my Tuta account so I can bid these shits adieu for good.

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                  • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

                    I've watched enough documentaries about cults to have serious concerns about the culture at #Proton. Going full send on AI seems spectacularly tone deaf given their user base and mission statement, but how they're doing it is some straight Theranos shit.

                    https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

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                    #11

                    @marginalia im not saying the dude isnt a genius. I am saying that genius’s aren’t stable people. Might be totally unrelated

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                    • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

                      @LevZadov Hm still seems to have a paywall at the end. That's a first.

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                      #12

                      @marginalia

                      It's an arms race. They're getting more clever by the day. How can we get around this?

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