finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
@loriemerson
So EVs are out then?
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
@loriemerson I'd like to see some examples of good and bad tech based on these principles. I assume a solar-powered calculator is a good tech.
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@loriemerson Yes 100% to all of this. Though I'm not entirely sure what they mean by "some form of solar energy" in that context... it sounds like they mean generally renewable or naturally abundant in the local environment?
@earthshine @loriemerson I think they mean it quite literally. The energy in us comes from our food, which gets it from the sun. Wind energy is also from the sun since it's the heat differences that drive the wind. If you take that idea to extremes fossil fuels are also solar but I don't think that's what they meant
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
How far back do you have to go, to find a time when many people would have agreed that slavery fell in the category of "family and community relationships", and was even among the most important? Technological innovation disrupted that, by separating the processing of chemical energy into mechanical work from the human body. I for one have no desire to go back.
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
@loriemerson wonderful! Is there a website with more information and some context? Or a book?
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@loriemerson
So EVs are out then?@AH_99 e-SUVs are out, e-bikes very much in
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How far back do you have to go, to find a time when many people would have agreed that slavery fell in the category of "family and community relationships", and was even among the most important? Technological innovation disrupted that, by separating the processing of chemical energy into mechanical work from the human body. I for one have no desire to go back.
@publius Slavery was recognized at the time it was practiced as an abomination by all decent people.
History classes just teach the awful people of their times as though they were the only ones whose opinions counted.
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@loriemerson Yes 100% to all of this. Though I'm not entirely sure what they mean by "some form of solar energy" in that context... it sounds like they mean generally renewable or naturally abundant in the local environment?
@earthshine @loriemerson Yeah, powered by burning wood or vegetation, or a combustion engine running pure ethanol..maybe even incinerating mountains of bioplastics...
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
@loriemerson This is a great list!!
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@loriemerson This is a great list!!
Wendell Berry rocks.
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
@loriemerson I'm not keen on rule 2: often the current tool's problems include being too small to operate well.
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@publius Slavery was recognized at the time it was practiced as an abomination by all decent people.
History classes just teach the awful people of their times as though they were the only ones whose opinions counted.
@dalias that's just a sad little troll, making a pathetic attempt to shit on someone else's post.
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
@loriemerson Nothing about durability. Point 6 only gets partway there.
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@loriemerson I'm not keen on rule 2: often the current tool's problems include being too small to operate well.
@libroraptor @loriemerson Yeah, smaller isn't necessarily better.
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@loriemerson 10. Never post an image/screenshot if you can type the same in plain text.
@aakoskin @loriemerson the text is in the image description you numpty.
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
@loriemerson amazing - I tracked down the source. Thanks for this!
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Why I Am Not Going to Buy a Computer
Wendell Berry
New England Review and Bread Loaf Quarterly
Vol. 10, No. 1 (Autumn, 1987), pp. 112-113 (2 pages)
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
@loriemerson yeah that’s a fantasy list that doesn’t exist anymore lol
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
@loriemerson wow, current vibe-coded software tools fail almost every one of these standards.
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finally, Wendell Berry's standards for technological innovation--truly as relevant now as they were in 1987 #othernetworks
I like to go to original sources, so here's a link via @Kottke.org...
https://classes.matthewjbrown.net/teaching-files/philtech/berry-computer.pdf
https://kottke.org/25/05/nine-rules-for-evaluating-new-technology
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@loriemerson 10. Never post an image/screenshot if you can type the same in plain text.
"Never post an image/screenshot if you can type the same in plain text."
For a simple list like the above. I agree.
I suspect that there is a "plain text penalty" for words/ideas without imagery in social media, but I'm not up on the trends, rules, or research in that domain.
