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  • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
    @coffee Though obvs. you have to consider that AI likely stole their earlier work.
    coffee@cafecreature.clubC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #37

    @stefan That's precisely what I mean. I posit that because AI stole all their work and now puts out very similar-looking slop, they probably got tired of being called out by morons online, and had to change their style out of desperation, simply to look more human.

    I think it's going to affect a lot of professional artists: you simply can't draw well anymore without the fear of being mistaken for AI and having to fight the bullshit.

    Hell, I'm learning to draw just to show AI a middle finger, and the comic I'm planning on releasing eventually will be done entirely with a pencil, a felt tip pen, and pastel charcoals in Concepts, and I'm going to keep the planning layer in the final works as the proof of humanity.

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      Authenticity Problem

      Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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      #38

      @davidrevoy
      C'est sur aussi si tu ne met pas un certificat d'authenticité sans IA comment tu veux qu'on sache 😁

      🤗

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        Authenticity Problem

        Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

        #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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        #39

        @davidrevoy <ugly crying>

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        • coffee@cafecreature.clubC coffee@cafecreature.club

          @stefan That's precisely what I mean. I posit that because AI stole all their work and now puts out very similar-looking slop, they probably got tired of being called out by morons online, and had to change their style out of desperation, simply to look more human.

          I think it's going to affect a lot of professional artists: you simply can't draw well anymore without the fear of being mistaken for AI and having to fight the bullshit.

          Hell, I'm learning to draw just to show AI a middle finger, and the comic I'm planning on releasing eventually will be done entirely with a pencil, a felt tip pen, and pastel charcoals in Concepts, and I'm going to keep the planning layer in the final works as the proof of humanity.

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          #40
          @coffee well said

          Also good luck and success on your artistic journey!

          Even when AI made things a little more miserable as a whole.

          You do see the effects very well by now as well, especially in crafts where people will feel like they need to post a video about the process of "how its made" in order to fight off slop-accusations. Though other arts are the same...

          It is kinda sad I always have to stop for a split second and ask myself if something can be enjoyed or its just.

          Its why I enjoy stuff like https://islieb.de/; (they are also on fedi but I don't wanted to drag them into here) or foxes in love (https://foxesinlove.net/) and of course David and all the other cool artsy people you can find on here
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          • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
            @coffee well said

            Also good luck and success on your artistic journey!

            Even when AI made things a little more miserable as a whole.

            You do see the effects very well by now as well, especially in crafts where people will feel like they need to post a video about the process of "how its made" in order to fight off slop-accusations. Though other arts are the same...

            It is kinda sad I always have to stop for a split second and ask myself if something can be enjoyed or its just.

            Its why I enjoy stuff like https://islieb.de/; (they are also on fedi but I don't wanted to drag them into here) or foxes in love (https://foxesinlove.net/) and of course David and all the other cool artsy people you can find on here
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            #41

            @stefan I appreciate the kind words!

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

              I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

              This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

              leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #42

              @davidrevoy always happy to support ai artists! (Please don't kill me that was a joke!)

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                #43

                @csolisr anyone that sees more than one of your works can tell is not ia because ia cant replicate the originality of it for so long

                edit: oh i didn't taged the op 😧

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  Authenticity Problem

                  Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

                  #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                  #44

                  @davidrevoy Not that I would compare myself to an artist, but in a similar fashion I have already been told that my prose (mostly technical prose—again, not an artist!) must have been AI-generated due to my propensity to use em dashes…

                  Damn it, I—and countless other writers—have been using em dashes long before those stochastic parrots came into being!

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    Authenticity Problem

                    Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

                    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                    #45

                    @davidrevoy I've been out painting in plein aire and had people ask me if I was actually painting.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      Authenticity Problem

                      Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

                      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                      #46

                      @davidrevoy too real 😭

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                        #47

                        @realtegan @AnnaBaguenaude @davidrevoy do as the firefighters do

                        An axe and a halligan

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                        • D dgouttegattat@social.incenp.org

                          @davidrevoy Not that I would compare myself to an artist, but in a similar fashion I have already been told that my prose (mostly technical prose—again, not an artist!) must have been AI-generated due to my propensity to use em dashes…

                          Damn it, I—and countless other writers—have been using em dashes long before those stochastic parrots came into being!

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                          #48

                          @dgouttegattat @davidrevoy Here, you might find this useful at some point.

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            @ghosttie Her fictive painting? The largest resolution I have for this color sketch is https://www.peppercarrot.com/extras/temp/2026-08-04_gothic-sorceress-fictive-painting.jpg

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                            #49

                            @davidrevoy @ghosttie this has a digital "impressionist" vibe for me. Such a contrast to your typical style for the webcomic.

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                              #50

                              @mirabilos @sinewave @davidrevoy No you don't. I used to work as a typesetter. I've had a keyboard shortcut for I-forget-how-many years to make it easy for me to insert a nonbreaking-space-and-em-dash combo, and I even wrote about using nonbreaking spaces like that over 16 years ago: https://kagan.mactane.org/blog/2010/07/10/typesetting-in-between-the-letters/

                              Some of us just care about typography.

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                Authenticity Problem

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                                #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                #51

                                @davidrevoy
                                Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVl0NS0vu8

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                                • kagan@wandering.shopK kagan@wandering.shop

                                  @mirabilos @sinewave @davidrevoy No you don't. I used to work as a typesetter. I've had a keyboard shortcut for I-forget-how-many years to make it easy for me to insert a nonbreaking-space-and-em-dash combo, and I even wrote about using nonbreaking spaces like that over 16 years ago: https://kagan.mactane.org/blog/2010/07/10/typesetting-in-between-the-letters/

                                  Some of us just care about typography.

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                                  #52

                                  @kagan @mirabilos @davidrevoy i mean hell the whole reason LLMs use em-dashes and such so much is because they're so damn common in the writing fed to the things as training data, which is like the whole-ass point of OPs comic

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    Authenticity Problem

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                                    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                    #53

                                    @davidrevoy Feel you. My novel will soonish get a git repo, so I have a record of me creating it.

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                                      #54

                                      @lispi314 @davidrevoy
                                      I agree that it is an education problem. I can't say how much it will actually help, only time will tell, but here's my effort to make people more knowledgeable about AI: https://techne-system.neocities.org/program/level-2/topic-8/l2t8-iib-tech

                                      The real trick is getting people who think they already know all they need to about the subject to study it anyway, to fill in gaps and clear up misconceptions. Anyone who went through some of the previous topics in the program, such as Critical Thinking and Education, are far more likely to do that.
                                      #Techne #AI

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        Authenticity Problem

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                                        #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                        #55

                                        @davidrevoy You are one of the first people I followed on mastodon and feels so nice to see your post getting so much love. I have no idea what it can be like doing what you do in these times. All I can do is join here and share this from behind a smile, a feeling of empathy to a "stranger" I have a feeling I know and tell you that I look forward to your posts. Especially now after this one.

                                        Cheers

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

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                                          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                          #56
                                          @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
                                          Crazy how avian intelligence can even generate a timelapse mockup! (/jk)
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