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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    Authenticity Problem

    Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

    rowyn@mastodon.artR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #46

    @davidrevoy too real 😭

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    • autolycos@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #47

      @realtegan @AnnaBaguenaude @davidrevoy do as the firefighters do

      An axe and a halligan

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      • D dgouttegattat@social.incenp.org

        @davidrevoy Not that I would compare myself to an artist, but in a similar fashion I have already been told that my prose (mostly technical prose—again, not an artist!) must have been AI-generated due to my propensity to use em dashes…

        Damn it, I—and countless other writers—have been using em dashes long before those stochastic parrots came into being!

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        #48

        @dgouttegattat @davidrevoy Here, you might find this useful at some point.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          @ghosttie Her fictive painting? The largest resolution I have for this color sketch is https://www.peppercarrot.com/extras/temp/2026-08-04_gothic-sorceress-fictive-painting.jpg

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          #49

          @davidrevoy @ghosttie this has a digital "impressionist" vibe for me. Such a contrast to your typical style for the webcomic.

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          • kagan@wandering.shopK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #50

            @mirabilos @sinewave @davidrevoy No you don't. I used to work as a typesetter. I've had a keyboard shortcut for I-forget-how-many years to make it easy for me to insert a nonbreaking-space-and-em-dash combo, and I even wrote about using nonbreaking spaces like that over 16 years ago: https://kagan.mactane.org/blog/2010/07/10/typesetting-in-between-the-letters/

            Some of us just care about typography.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              Authenticity Problem

              Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

              #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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              #51

              @davidrevoy
              Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVl0NS0vu8

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              • kagan@wandering.shopK kagan@wandering.shop

                @mirabilos @sinewave @davidrevoy No you don't. I used to work as a typesetter. I've had a keyboard shortcut for I-forget-how-many years to make it easy for me to insert a nonbreaking-space-and-em-dash combo, and I even wrote about using nonbreaking spaces like that over 16 years ago: https://kagan.mactane.org/blog/2010/07/10/typesetting-in-between-the-letters/

                Some of us just care about typography.

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                #52

                @kagan @mirabilos @davidrevoy i mean hell the whole reason LLMs use em-dashes and such so much is because they're so damn common in the writing fed to the things as training data, which is like the whole-ass point of OPs comic

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  Authenticity Problem

                  Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

                  #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                  #53

                  @davidrevoy Feel you. My novel will soonish get a git repo, so I have a record of me creating it.

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                  • murdoc@autistics.lifeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #54

                    @lispi314 @davidrevoy
                    I agree that it is an education problem. I can't say how much it will actually help, only time will tell, but here's my effort to make people more knowledgeable about AI: https://techne-system.neocities.org/program/level-2/topic-8/l2t8-iib-tech

                    The real trick is getting people who think they already know all they need to about the subject to study it anyway, to fill in gaps and clear up misconceptions. Anyone who went through some of the previous topics in the program, such as Critical Thinking and Education, are far more likely to do that.
                    #Techne #AI

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      Authenticity Problem

                      Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

                      #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                      #55

                      @davidrevoy You are one of the first people I followed on mastodon and feels so nice to see your post getting so much love. I have no idea what it can be like doing what you do in these times. All I can do is join here and share this from behind a smile, a feeling of empathy to a "stranger" I have a feeling I know and tell you that I look forward to your posts. Especially now after this one.

                      Cheers

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        Authenticity Problem

                        Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

                        #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                        #56
                        @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
                        Crazy how avian intelligence can even generate a timelapse mockup! (/jk)
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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          Authenticity Problem

                          Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

                          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                          #57

                          @davidrevoy

                          This is so sad and true 😟

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

                            I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

                            This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

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                            #58

                            @davidrevoy we love your work!! and we are happy to have you here

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                            • sinewave@mastodon.dragoncave.devS sinewave@mastodon.dragoncave.dev

                              @kagan @mirabilos @davidrevoy i mean hell the whole reason LLMs use em-dashes and such so much is because they're so damn common in the writing fed to the things as training data, which is like the whole-ass point of OPs comic

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                              #59

                              @sinewave @mirabilos @davidrevoy Exactly! Thank you!

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                Authenticity Problem

                                Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

                                #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                                #60

                                @davidrevoy I think it's just something people struggle with, they will make deranged statements in pursuit of trying to seem like they're still on top of things.

                                I know it's easy to say, but don't take it personally, I've always been a fan of both your art and your open source tooling/process.

                                This stuff is one reason I'm really happy the EU is requiring AI involvement to be labeled as such; it works both ways, and hopefully other countries/areas will follow, so we can put an end to this.

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                                • uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #61

                                  @nate @davidrevoy


                                  this message is AI-generated, isn't it?

                                  --
                                  Uriel Fanelli

                                  My Projects: https://keinpfusch.net/software
                                  XMPP: uriel@keinpfusch.net
                                  MATRIX: @uriel:chat.keinpfusch.net
                                  old blog: https://blog.keinpfusch.net
                                  new blog: https://keinpfusch.net

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                                  • marnic@framapiaf.orgM marnic@framapiaf.org

                                    @davidrevoy
                                    C'est sur aussi si tu ne met pas un certificat d'authenticité sans IA comment tu veux qu'on sache 😁

                                    🤗

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                                    #62

                                    @marnic @davidrevoy


                                    very nice picture. Which AI you used for it?

                                    --
                                    Uriel Fanelli

                                    My Projects: https://keinpfusch.net/software
                                    XMPP: uriel@keinpfusch.net
                                    MATRIX: @uriel:chat.keinpfusch.net
                                    old blog: https://blog.keinpfusch.net
                                    new blog: https://keinpfusch.net

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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

                                      I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

                                      This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

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                                      #63

                                      @davidrevoy Your art is amazing, your local-first process is commendable, your wherewithal is admirable, and your address of the state of things is spot on!

                                      Absolutely love your stuff. I love that the lack of algorithm in the fediverse doesn't bubble up "engagement" for you, and that you know you're really valued!

                                      I mean, by me.. Whoever I am.. BUT STILL! Love your work!

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        @ghosttie Her fictive painting? The largest resolution I have for this color sketch is https://www.peppercarrot.com/extras/temp/2026-08-04_gothic-sorceress-fictive-painting.jpg

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                                        #64

                                        @davidrevoy @ghosttie

                                        /me adds to phone wallpaper rotation

                                        thanks!!

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                                        • murdoc@autistics.lifeM murdoc@autistics.life

                                          @lispi314 @davidrevoy
                                          I agree that it is an education problem. I can't say how much it will actually help, only time will tell, but here's my effort to make people more knowledgeable about AI: https://techne-system.neocities.org/program/level-2/topic-8/l2t8-iib-tech

                                          The real trick is getting people who think they already know all they need to about the subject to study it anyway, to fill in gaps and clear up misconceptions. Anyone who went through some of the previous topics in the program, such as Critical Thinking and Education, are far more likely to do that.
                                          #Techne #AI

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                                          #65

                                          @murdoc@autistics.life @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I’m wary of recommending even the uses in the article (I’d would be inclined to say none).

                                          Even people that do know how they work seem vulnerable to LLM psychosis over long enough exposure.

                                          And for programming in particular, the ways in which they fail are so unintuitive that they end-up requiring far more (tedious, morale-destroying) effort in review than just writing it from scratch (and then having that reviewed).

                                          The ethics & environmental costs are mentioned in there though. But I do need to highlight, ethical problems abound.

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