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  3. Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.”

Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.”

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  • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

    michaelgemar@cosocial.caM a@pdx.socialA dmoren@zeppelin.flightsD jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jordan@mastodon.subj.amJ 9 Replies Last reply
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    • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

      Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

      michaelgemar@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
      michaelgemar@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @jsnell Infringing as in copyright? In a *review*?!

      And who is asking for this? I would think publishers would be *delighted* to have people discussing their books, even if that means reciting some of the text. But why would Spotify care otherwise?

      (As an aside, I’m really curious how they’re checking this — voice-to-text and AI-based comparisons?)

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      • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

        Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

        a@pdx.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @jsnell "YouTube is pretty successful; what are the most antisocial behaviors we can copy from them?"

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        • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

          Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

          dmoren@zeppelin.flightsD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @jsnell What nonsense is this.

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          • dmoren@zeppelin.flightsD dmoren@zeppelin.flights

            @jsnell What nonsense is this.

            moltz@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            moltz@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @dmoren @jsnell I’m sure the authors and publishers don’t want people talking about their books. … Wait.

            jdechko@mastodon.socialJ maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM 2 Replies Last reply
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            • michaelgemar@cosocial.caM michaelgemar@cosocial.ca

              @jsnell Infringing as in copyright? In a *review*?!

              And who is asking for this? I would think publishers would be *delighted* to have people discussing their books, even if that means reciting some of the text. But why would Spotify care otherwise?

              (As an aside, I’m really curious how they’re checking this — voice-to-text and AI-based comparisons?)

              jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @michaelgemar spotify re-hosts all podcasts so they are like youtube, they are content scanning everything

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              • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

                jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
                jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                Just to follow up on this with some stats:

                The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

                Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

                What are we even doing here?

                vmachiel@mastodon.nlV jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ donw@mastodon.coffeeD yatil@yatil.socialY ultranurd@tacobelllabs.netU 5 Replies Last reply
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                • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                  Just to follow up on this with some stats:

                  The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

                  Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

                  What are we even doing here?

                  vmachiel@mastodon.nlV This user is from outside of this forum
                  vmachiel@mastodon.nlV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @jsnell late stage capitalism.

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                  • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                    Just to follow up on this with some stats:

                    The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

                    Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

                    What are we even doing here?

                    jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    Also I guess I need to clear this up - I am hosting the files for someone else's show on my network. It's not my podcast, but it's on my network so I get the legal notices.

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                    • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                      Just to follow up on this with some stats:

                      The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

                      Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

                      What are we even doing here?

                      donw@mastodon.coffeeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @jsnell *stares in LLM training* Those words on a podcast are the problem, all right.

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                      • moltz@mastodon.socialM moltz@mastodon.social

                        @dmoren @jsnell I’m sure the authors and publishers don’t want people talking about their books. … Wait.

                        jdechko@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @Moltz @dmoren @jsnell The first rule of book club is you do not talk about book club.

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                        • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                          Also I guess I need to clear this up - I am hosting the files for someone else's show on my network. It's not my podcast, but it's on my network so I get the legal notices.

                          steveriggins@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @jsnell I fear it will only get worse as fewer and fewer disconnected rich people buy corporations and install rules that do nothing but protect their profits. And by “protect” I fully mean insane fantasy delusional actions.

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                          • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                            Just to follow up on this with some stats:

                            The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

                            Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

                            What are we even doing here?

                            yatil@yatil.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @jsnell If only the podcasts used the books for "AI" training, that would be totally fine!

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                            • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                              Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

                              jordan@mastodon.subj.amJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @jsnell ...As they use their users' content to train their own AI systems 🙃

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                              • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                                Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

                                yertle@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @jsnell @siracusa is it going to catch every episode of Recently Read?

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                                • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                                  Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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                                  @jsnell Jonas Ek is a bit of a latrine

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                                  • moltz@mastodon.socialM moltz@mastodon.social

                                    @dmoren @jsnell I’m sure the authors and publishers don’t want people talking about their books. … Wait.

                                    maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @Moltz @dmoren @jsnell The publicity department where I work is constantly sending out notices to podcasts and reviewers: please do not discuss our books or tell anyone they exist.

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                                    • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                                      Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

                                      jason@logoff.websiteJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @jsnell I barely remember why I hate Spotify anymore but “they made podcasts stop being podcasts” was DEFINITELY the original sin now that you’ve reminded me. Fuck these scum.

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                                      • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                                        Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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                                        vramvoolenaar@mastodon.nlmakers.ca
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                                        @jsnell Awesome. Only AI can get unfettered access to information now.

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                                        • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                                          Just to follow up on this with some stats:

                                          The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

                                          Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

                                          What are we even doing here?

                                          ultranurd@tacobelllabs.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @jsnell My guess is that Spotify is working on more "make a podcast from this" generative AI features and they are rolling out a Content ID equivalent system to make sure users aren't making whole books into episodes... except they're doing it very stupidly.

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