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  3. Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.”

Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.”

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  • michaelgemar@cosocial.caM michaelgemar@cosocial.ca

    @jsnell Infringing as in copyright? In a *review*?!

    And who is asking for this? I would think publishers would be *delighted* to have people discussing their books, even if that means reciting some of the text. But why would Spotify care otherwise?

    (As an aside, I’m really curious how they’re checking this — voice-to-text and AI-based comparisons?)

    jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @michaelgemar spotify re-hosts all podcasts so they are like youtube, they are content scanning everything

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    • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

      Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

      jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      Just to follow up on this with some stats:

      The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

      Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

      What are we even doing here?

      vmachiel@mastodon.nlV jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ donw@mastodon.coffeeD yatil@yatil.socialY ultranurd@tacobelllabs.netU 5 Replies Last reply
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      • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

        Just to follow up on this with some stats:

        The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

        Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

        What are we even doing here?

        vmachiel@mastodon.nlV This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @jsnell late stage capitalism.

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        • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

          Just to follow up on this with some stats:

          The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

          Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

          What are we even doing here?

          jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          Also I guess I need to clear this up - I am hosting the files for someone else's show on my network. It's not my podcast, but it's on my network so I get the legal notices.

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          • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

            Just to follow up on this with some stats:

            The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

            Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

            What are we even doing here?

            donw@mastodon.coffeeD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @jsnell *stares in LLM training* Those words on a podcast are the problem, all right.

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            • moltz@mastodon.socialM moltz@mastodon.social

              @dmoren @jsnell I’m sure the authors and publishers don’t want people talking about their books. … Wait.

              jdechko@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @Moltz @dmoren @jsnell The first rule of book club is you do not talk about book club.

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              • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                Also I guess I need to clear this up - I am hosting the files for someone else's show on my network. It's not my podcast, but it's on my network so I get the legal notices.

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                #12

                @jsnell I fear it will only get worse as fewer and fewer disconnected rich people buy corporations and install rules that do nothing but protect their profits. And by “protect” I fully mean insane fantasy delusional actions.

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                • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                  Just to follow up on this with some stats:

                  The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

                  Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

                  What are we even doing here?

                  yatil@yatil.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @jsnell If only the podcasts used the books for "AI" training, that would be totally fine!

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                  • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                    Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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                    #14

                    @jsnell ...As they use their users' content to train their own AI systems 🙃

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                    • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                      Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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                      #15

                      @jsnell @siracusa is it going to catch every episode of Recently Read?

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                      • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                        Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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                        #16

                        @jsnell Jonas Ek is a bit of a latrine

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                        • moltz@mastodon.socialM moltz@mastodon.social

                          @dmoren @jsnell I’m sure the authors and publishers don’t want people talking about their books. … Wait.

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                          #17

                          @Moltz @dmoren @jsnell The publicity department where I work is constantly sending out notices to podcasts and reviewers: please do not discuss our books or tell anyone they exist.

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                          • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                            Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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                            #18

                            @jsnell I barely remember why I hate Spotify anymore but “they made podcasts stop being podcasts” was DEFINITELY the original sin now that you’ve reminded me. Fuck these scum.

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                            • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                              Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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                              vramvoolenaar@mastodon.nlmakers.ca
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                              #19

                              @jsnell Awesome. Only AI can get unfettered access to information now.

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                              • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                                Just to follow up on this with some stats:

                                The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

                                Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

                                What are we even doing here?

                                ultranurd@tacobelllabs.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #20

                                @jsnell My guess is that Spotify is working on more "make a podcast from this" generative AI features and they are rolling out a Content ID equivalent system to make sure users aren't making whole books into episodes... except they're doing it very stupidly.

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