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  3. Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.”

Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.”

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  • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

    Just to follow up on this with some stats:

    The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

    Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

    What are we even doing here?

    donw@mastodon.coffeeD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @jsnell *stares in LLM training* Those words on a podcast are the problem, all right.

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    • moltz@mastodon.socialM moltz@mastodon.social

      @dmoren @jsnell I’m sure the authors and publishers don’t want people talking about their books. … Wait.

      jdechko@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @Moltz @dmoren @jsnell The first rule of book club is you do not talk about book club.

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      • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

        Also I guess I need to clear this up - I am hosting the files for someone else's show on my network. It's not my podcast, but it's on my network so I get the legal notices.

        steveriggins@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @jsnell I fear it will only get worse as fewer and fewer disconnected rich people buy corporations and install rules that do nothing but protect their profits. And by “protect” I fully mean insane fantasy delusional actions.

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        • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

          Just to follow up on this with some stats:

          The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

          Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

          What are we even doing here?

          yatil@yatil.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @jsnell If only the podcasts used the books for "AI" training, that would be totally fine!

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          • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

            Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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            #14

            @jsnell ...As they use their users' content to train their own AI systems 🙃

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            • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

              Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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              #15

              @jsnell @siracusa is it going to catch every episode of Recently Read?

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              • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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                #16

                @jsnell Jonas Ek is a bit of a latrine

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                • moltz@mastodon.socialM moltz@mastodon.social

                  @dmoren @jsnell I’m sure the authors and publishers don’t want people talking about their books. … Wait.

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                  #17

                  @Moltz @dmoren @jsnell The publicity department where I work is constantly sending out notices to podcasts and reviewers: please do not discuss our books or tell anyone they exist.

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                  • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                    Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

                    jason@logoff.websiteJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #18

                    @jsnell I barely remember why I hate Spotify anymore but “they made podcasts stop being podcasts” was DEFINITELY the original sin now that you’ve reminded me. Fuck these scum.

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                    • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                      Spotify, already the bane of many podcasters’ existence, has decided to amp things up: Now it’s scouring podcasts to see if any infringe on “literary content.” It’s already flagged one podcast I host, which reviews/critiques an author’s books one by one, for “infringing” on the book. This is dire.

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                      #19

                      @jsnell Awesome. Only AI can get unfettered access to information now.

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                      • jsnell@zeppelin.flightsJ jsnell@zeppelin.flights

                        Just to follow up on this with some stats:

                        The podcast episode in question is 62 minutes long. More than an hour discussing a book.

                        Six minutes in, they quote the opening paragraph of the book, a total of 71 words. It takes 20 seconds.

                        What are we even doing here?

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                        #20

                        @jsnell My guess is that Spotify is working on more "make a podcast from this" generative AI features and they are rolling out a Content ID equivalent system to make sure users aren't making whole books into episodes... except they're doing it very stupidly.

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