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  3. #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

#WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

    This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

    My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

    🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

    #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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    #97

    @_elena
    Jesus christ @EUCommission are you guys fucking stupid, incompetent, corrupt or all of the above?.....

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    • streetcoder@mastodon.socialS streetcoder@mastodon.social

      @kichae No why should I start another instance when they already have one. For whom?

      I just want the EU Commission to use it and talk about it https://ec.social-network.europa.eu

      But Ursula von der Leyen is not active there. Don't know if she even tried and why not?

      In Germany we already have:

      For federal authorities https://social.bund.de

      For the state I'm living https://nrw.social

      Instances for cities e.g. https://bonn.social

      VIP accounts with relevance https://netzbegruenung.de/blog/das-ende-der-dominanz-microblogging-wandel-in-deutschland-in-zahlen/

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      #98

      @kichae It's not me not talking and not promoting the instances I use.

      It seems Ursula von der Leyen prefers W Social over Mastodon. I want to know why? Because she could have already used the EU Commission instance she is working for.

      And why is W Social so important for her that it's announced during G7? She is a representative and her words have a lot of power.

      I assume she has done her research on alternatives before dropping things on important meetings. Why was Mastodon not an option?

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      • T thermophilus@mastodon.uno

        @_elena “for profit” is not the same as “evil.” If we want an open-source future, it has to be economically sustainable. Big Tech gets paid with our personal data; if you want the same level of service without handing over data, someone still has to pay for it. There’s no such thing as a free lunch.

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        #99

        @thermophilus @_elena sustainable doesn't mean "for profit". And all public services are not commercial activities, they have to effectively... provide a service, not make money from that.
        Even the so-called efficiency is secondary. It is evident that money can be found if politics wants.
        Social networks are a direct news channel, with citizen feedback, and a public square for discussion, and possibly education and information. They can also weaponized. An open decentralized tool is needed.

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        • xavcc@todon.euX xavcc@todon.eu

          @_elena
          And there's more sad news on this trap
          @EUCommission @aral
          @rysiek

          https://journa.host/@occrp/116766567782044882

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          #100

          @XavCC @_elena @EUCommission @rysiek Thanks for the heads up. Just unfollowed @occrp. They’re clearly not what I thought they were.

          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

            This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

            My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

            🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

            #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

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            #101

            @_elena @EUCommission @aral
            Yes it is sad. And they will finance by Advertisement. So the roles seem clear: the payers are the directors, not the directors and not the users.
            No one can see inside the code and they connect to bluesky US. At the moment I cannot see too many differences.
            Maybe they have to change sth or communicate differently.
            Let s have a look.

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            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

              @XavCC @_elena @EUCommission @rysiek Thanks for the heads up. Just unfollowed @occrp. They’re clearly not what I thought they were.

              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

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              #102

              @aral @XavCC @_elena they are a solid investigative journalism outlet, and reporters and journalists working there are wonderful people publishing important stories and working their fingers to the bone.

              Top-down decisions, however… are a separate matter.

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              • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

                @hwll @_elena comply with what? A new twitter appears. Oh ok. Anyways.

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                #103

                @f4grx you're good

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

                  European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

                  🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

                  I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

                  #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

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                  #104

                  @_elena I never really trusted Ursula van der Leyen since she suggested that anyone who knows how to change a dns server is a pedophile.
                  It was during her time as German family minister where a proposed dns block was criticized by experts that it won’t work, since people could just change dns when she stated something similar to that. She was very stubborn to not listen to IT experts.
                  Only source I could find:

                  https://netzpolitik.org/2014/fuenf-jahre-nach-zensursula-stellt-die-bundesregierung-fest-loeschen-statt-sperren-funktioniert/

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                  • troed@swecyb.comT troed@swecyb.com

                    @_elena

                    Seems to be regular old #corruption at @EUCommission

                    EU institutions need to get better at saying no to corporate lobbyists.

                    #eupol

                    @aral

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                    #105

                    @troed @_elena @EUCommission @aral
                    Yes Minister
                    Yes Prime Minister

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                    • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                      @_elena

                      Once upon a time, JAVA™ was open source.

                      The only source whose you could be sure to have an eternal access to is the one you manage yourself, open or closed.

                      Opening source is mean of extending collaboration, not a guarantee of sovereignity.

                      An example is the French Tresor. As far as i know, it owns its computer infrastructure and has an internal computer science team. But the software is closed source.

                      @EUCommission @aral

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                      #106

                      @tanavit @_elena @EUCommission @aral
                      Open Source VS Source Available ©®

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

                        European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

                        🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

                        I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

                        #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

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                        #107

                        @_elena Somehow, I'm not surprised... The EU commission likes the corporate world, they just prefer the European one... Open source is for "those leftist hippies", not for respectable right-wing people. Capitalism helps capitalism, always.

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                        • bno@mindly.socialB bno@mindly.social

                          @_elena
                          Jesus christ @EUCommission are you guys fucking stupid, incompetent, corrupt or all of the above?.....

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                          #108

                          @bno I'll with corrupt. Always have.

                          @_elena @EUCommission

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