I appear to be having my first Wiki-argument.
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@CiaraNi
I find that staying out of the argument, waiting a week or two, then fixing the article with referenced information works well.@mrundkvist The problem (as I experience it) is that they are not making an objection on the relevant content page. They have, not for the first time, turned up on my user page with unsolicited 'advice' about how I can be a better Wikipedian and share better photos that meet the wiki-guidelines. If they want to object, I think the process is simple - they can use the content page and be specific and nominate for deletion, then the community (in which I greatly trust) can decide.
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@CiaraNi I like the idea of 'Baby's First Wiki Row'.
@psneeze I can definitely see that on a cake.
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@mrundkvist The problem (as I experience it) is that they are not making an objection on the relevant content page. They have, not for the first time, turned up on my user page with unsolicited 'advice' about how I can be a better Wikipedian and share better photos that meet the wiki-guidelines. If they want to object, I think the process is simple - they can use the content page and be specific and nominate for deletion, then the community (in which I greatly trust) can decide.
@CiaraNi
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@psneeze I can definitely see that on a cake.
@CiaraNi And we'd refer to the candles as 'burns'.
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@CiaraNi And we'd refer to the candles as 'burns'.
@psneeze Ha oh yes, we would, that's perfect
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@CiaraNi
That's bullying. Call in an admin.@mrundkvist I don't want to escalate really. I normally just ignore, but something about it bugged me enough to reply directly to his post on my page. I think it's because it's Wiki. It's about sharing free resources as a community and helping each other in collaboration, so a veteran putting a newcomer down with condescension and territorial behaviour seems counter-productive. If he has a point, it's lost in the way he delivered it and just makes me think I'm not arsed doing more Wiki-stuff.
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@mrundkvist I don't want to escalate really. I normally just ignore, but something about it bugged me enough to reply directly to his post on my page. I think it's because it's Wiki. It's about sharing free resources as a community and helping each other in collaboration, so a veteran putting a newcomer down with condescension and territorial behaviour seems counter-productive. If he has a point, it's lost in the way he delivered it and just makes me think I'm not arsed doing more Wiki-stuff.
@CiaraNi
#Wikipedia is chock full of men who consider themselves well-meaning but have clinically significant social impairments. -
@mrundkvist I don't want to escalate really. I normally just ignore, but something about it bugged me enough to reply directly to his post on my page. I think it's because it's Wiki. It's about sharing free resources as a community and helping each other in collaboration, so a veteran putting a newcomer down with condescension and territorial behaviour seems counter-productive. If he has a point, it's lost in the way he delivered it and just makes me think I'm not arsed doing more Wiki-stuff.
@CiaraNi @mrundkvist That would be a shame for you to quit. I'm going to guess this guy wouldn't try that behaviour with a newbie male Wikipedian.
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@CiaraNi Congratulations.
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@CiaraNi
#Wikipedia is chock full of men who consider themselves well-meaning but have clinically significant social impairments.As the proverb says, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
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@mrundkvist I don't want to escalate really. I normally just ignore, but something about it bugged me enough to reply directly to his post on my page. I think it's because it's Wiki. It's about sharing free resources as a community and helping each other in collaboration, so a veteran putting a newcomer down with condescension and territorial behaviour seems counter-productive. If he has a point, it's lost in the way he delivered it and just makes me think I'm not arsed doing more Wiki-stuff.
@CiaraNi @mrundkvist This is exactly one of the reasons I left Wikipedia after fifteen years as an editor.
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@CiaraNi @mrundkvist This is exactly one of the reasons I left Wikipedia after fifteen years as an editor.
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@CiaraNi @mrundkvist That would be a shame for you to quit. I'm going to guess this guy wouldn't try that behaviour with a newbie male Wikipedian.
@jimkennedy @mrundkvist That thought has struck me too, that is my guess too.
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@WikimediaIE @ticho @nichni And if called out on it, you could point out that it adheres to the LinkedIn Bro claim that we can be self-made and that being self-made is laudable - that we each can do anything and achieve anything and be whatever we want. Including the self-made emperor of some island off the coast of Antarctica.
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@CiaraNi @mrundkvist This is exactly one of the reasons I left Wikipedia after fifteen years as an editor.
@henrikmillinge @mrundkvist It is so counter-productive. Driving away veterans with all your experience, who have been contributing voluntarily for 15 years. Policing and putting off newcomers with constant negative comments and unsolicited 'advice'. A shame.
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@henrikmillinge @mrundkvist It is so counter-productive. Driving away veterans with all your experience, who have been contributing voluntarily for 15 years. Policing and putting off newcomers with constant negative comments and unsolicited 'advice'. A shame.
@CiaraNi @henrikmillinge
The project isn't all bad though. In this day and age, it's more important than ever. Lots of lovely smart people too. And the socially clumsy guys actually mostly do their very best. It's just that they aren't great at that sort of thing. So don't take any bullying.
