Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
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I agree.. both parties need to give us candidates we can vote FOR, instead of candidates to vote AGAINST...
100% agreed
but even if we don't get that, you still vote for the candidate that isn't an outright fascist. it's just self-preservation
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It's completely crazy.
That being said, and I may be get it for saying it, is that I think the entire organised football whatever is disgusting; football stars have nasty glittering egos; the organisation is all about money, boot licking, and even more money; and supporters behave like football is war.
Also: I never understood all the destruction and hooliganism. Why not ALWAYS be happy for the winning team, then it's always a party!
@pascaline @benroyce sadly that happens in all sports, holliganism and destruction, football isn't alone in that.
But yes although football is massive here in the UK, I've never got it. Watched the odd World Cup, but not really into sportsball. I was constantly criticised at school for not getting into team sports, and the fans of same can be very homophobic so avoided.
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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
When I see this sort of thing:
"As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA"I'm thinking about the people around me, here in Wisconsin, dependent on tourist business - it's pretty terrible up here just now.
Not a milligram of nuance to anything said around here.
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100% agreed
but even if we don't get that, you still vote for the candidate that isn't an outright fascist. it's just self-preservation
Pretty much why I've voted third party for the last six elections...
I keep hoping more people do so, so a third party can get into the debates and provide another point of view, and someone else to vote for.
Maybe the rise of a third party will make the other two pull their heads out of their butts and do the job right, because NEITHER party has done so in recent memory....
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@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox A bunch of the people who knew how destructive and terrible Pissed Off Americans could be... who spent DECADES going "Let's see if we can just contain these couple of grumps and trust these folks who say they have it handled and know how to keep 'em calm" are now glowing Red, White, and Blue with the flames of apoplexy at the sheer incompetence and unbridled pettyness.
All the "When they go low we go high" folks are now basically going "High road's closed."
@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about Karens.
Now imagine Karen with G-Wagon/Cybertruck/Yank-Tank with her kids in it and no fucks to give because she just saw her friend and neighbor get popped by someone 'Not From Their Town'?
She'll knock down whatever gravy seal, park with a wheel on his chest, and live stream them going through compartmentalization syndrome while calmly telling him he deserves it because he messed up her brunch plans with the lady he just shot.
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that's correct
avoid the usa. completely. florida. nevada. wisconsin. everywhere
zero nuance intended. zero nuance required
the country is acting in ways that can not and should not pass without consequence
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that's correct
avoid the usa. completely. florida. nevada. wisconsin. everywhere
zero nuance intended. zero nuance required
the country is acting in ways that can not and should not pass without consequence
Consequences for whom? Sure does make ethics a lot simpler when you can just throw us all in your Hefty Bag.
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@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about Karens.
Now imagine Karen with G-Wagon/Cybertruck/Yank-Tank with her kids in it and no fucks to give because she just saw her friend and neighbor get popped by someone 'Not From Their Town'?
She'll knock down whatever gravy seal, park with a wheel on his chest, and live stream them going through compartmentalization syndrome while calmly telling him he deserves it because he messed up her brunch plans with the lady he just shot.
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@pascaline @benroyce sadly that happens in all sports, holliganism and destruction, football isn't alone in that.
But yes although football is massive here in the UK, I've never got it. Watched the odd World Cup, but not really into sportsball. I was constantly criticised at school for not getting into team sports, and the fans of same can be very homophobic so avoided.
Ah yes, the outcast because one doesn't like team sports. I was like that as well. Oh wait, I was an outcast for all other reasons, too.
There was something similar to dodgeball in school, I so disliked it. I didn't understand why one would want to hurt someone by hitting them as hard as possible.
The other children didn't want to play badminton with me because I kept throwing them impossible to hit shuttles. I never understood. Hitting a shuttle was simple. -
Pretty much why I've voted third party for the last six elections...
I keep hoping more people do so, so a third party can get into the debates and provide another point of view, and someone else to vote for.
Maybe the rise of a third party will make the other two pull their heads out of their butts and do the job right, because NEITHER party has done so in recent memory....
the usa is an fptp voting system
there can only ever be 2 parties. it's not corruption (corruption exists, but it's not the reason). it's just math:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law
to get viable 3rd parties we need a new voting system, like ranked choice. then you can vote your conscience free and clear and not worry about dreary strategy
ranked choice is creeping in in places
but if you vote 3rd party *before* we get that you divide the left vote and help MAGA win
you can't vote 3rd party
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Consequences for whom? Sure does make ethics a lot simpler when you can just throw us all in your Hefty Bag.
the hefty bag called the reality of living in a country. and yes we are all in it. and there is no alternative. who leads us has consequences, as a whole group
i'm not proposing a path. i'm describing the path we are on
don't shoot the messenger
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Ah yes, the outcast because one doesn't like team sports. I was like that as well. Oh wait, I was an outcast for all other reasons, too.
There was something similar to dodgeball in school, I so disliked it. I didn't understand why one would want to hurt someone by hitting them as hard as possible.
The other children didn't want to play badminton with me because I kept throwing them impossible to hit shuttles. I never understood. Hitting a shuttle was simple.@pascaline @benroyce the weird thing?
At break, I was happy to play rounders - someone brought in a ball and bat...or football with a tennis ball with my mates - with one goal made of bags or coats!
But when it came to organised games, I was always picked last and the PE teachers would give me aggro.
So I wasn't against sports, or exercise but something horrible came in when it was made official. Competitiveness is ugly.
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the hefty bag called the reality of living in a country. and yes we are all in it. and there is no alternative. who leads us has consequences, as a whole group
i'm not proposing a path. i'm describing the path we are on
don't shoot the messenger
I sure wish I was as similarly convinced of the evil of the American public. Yeah, when our leaders run amok, the thing which will convince those rogue elephants of their evil ways is to damage ordinary people who didn't do anything to anyone, just trying to run a business.
That's "reality"
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@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox Also, even under the premise that voting is meaningless, and Americans have to uprise instead: Voting, and getting everybody to vote is the best way to start an uprising. If millions of people vote and their votes are stolen, then they'll be motivated to uprise. If they stay home thinking their votes don't matter, and then the votes cast don't matter, all they'll do is say "I told you so".
@PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox
that's right
no uprising happens just because someone starts rioting. why are they rioting? what do they stand for? who knows
if people vote, and then the vote is denied, and the people rise up: absolutely everyone is crystal clear as to what is happening and why. so people join in, because they know the message being delivered
so we have to vote first. otherwise there is no coherency of meaning
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Ah yes, the outcast because one doesn't like team sports. I was like that as well. Oh wait, I was an outcast for all other reasons, too.
There was something similar to dodgeball in school, I so disliked it. I didn't understand why one would want to hurt someone by hitting them as hard as possible.
The other children didn't want to play badminton with me because I kept throwing them impossible to hit shuttles. I never understood. Hitting a shuttle was simple.@pascaline @benroyce also sports were gendered - boys had to play rugby, football and sometimes hockey. Only the girls could play tennis which I wanted to play. And I wasn't good at swimming - again I was abandoned cos I didn't progress fast enough and left to the shallow end.
There was no choice, and I didn't like team sports.
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the usa is an fptp voting system
there can only ever be 2 parties. it's not corruption (corruption exists, but it's not the reason). it's just math:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law
to get viable 3rd parties we need a new voting system, like ranked choice. then you can vote your conscience free and clear and not worry about dreary strategy
ranked choice is creeping in in places
but if you vote 3rd party *before* we get that you divide the left vote and help MAGA win
you can't vote 3rd party
I don't agree on the necessity of Ranked Choice.
In the Presidential elections, the candidates with the most electoral votes wins.
It doesn't matter if there are 2 or 20 parties.
The system was set up before the "two parties" even existed. The first few elections were party-free; candidates published what they stood for, and people voted based on their wishes.
If you vote third party, it's because you don't agree with the left or the right, or their candidates, and that's all.
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but what is the point of this comment in your mind
because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants
you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump
and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting
the only effect is you are helping trump
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I sure wish I was as similarly convinced of the evil of the American public. Yeah, when our leaders run amok, the thing which will convince those rogue elephants of their evil ways is to damage ordinary people who didn't do anything to anyone, just trying to run a business.
That's "reality"
yes. that is the reality. elections have consequences. and what let us down is nonvoters and MAGA. it is their fault. we will now suffer, because of them. and there is no way around that. i'm not saying it's good, i'm not saying it is bad. i'm saying it is inevitable
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I don't agree on the necessity of Ranked Choice.
In the Presidential elections, the candidates with the most electoral votes wins.
It doesn't matter if there are 2 or 20 parties.
The system was set up before the "two parties" even existed. The first few elections were party-free; candidates published what they stood for, and people voted based on their wishes.
If you vote third party, it's because you don't agree with the left or the right, or their candidates, and that's all.
no. you don't understand the topic
first past the post means only two parties dominate. they cannibalize the platforms of smaller parties because of the math of the voting system. 3rd parties are unstable in fptp, and fade away
3rd party's only value in our voting system is to divide the left, or the right, and help the other side win
when you vote 3rd party, all you are doing is helping trump. this isn't your intention, but that is exactly what you are doing
it's just math
