Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
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but what is the point of this comment in your mind
because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants
you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump
and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting
the only effect is you are helping trump
@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox Also, even under the premise that voting is meaningless, and Americans have to uprise instead: Voting, and getting everybody to vote is the best way to start an uprising. If millions of people vote and their votes are stolen, then they'll be motivated to uprise. If they stay home thinking their votes don't matter, and then the votes cast don't matter, all they'll do is say "I told you so".
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@benroyce I am amazed anyone travels to the US for ANYTHING - be it World Cup or Olympics, They have put our citizens in ICE detention, and those of fellow Europeans.
It's completely crazy.
That being said, and I may be get it for saying it, is that I think the entire organised football whatever is disgusting; football stars have nasty glittering egos; the organisation is all about money, boot licking, and even more money; and supporters behave like football is war.
Also: I never understood all the destruction and hooliganism. Why not ALWAYS be happy for the winning team, then it's always a party!
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@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox I don't think non-Americans realize just how scared _Americans_ are of Americans that are Very Angry and feel completely justified in that Anger.
That is America's greatest export. It was called-upon to help end two world wars with great success and try to tip the scales in colony skirmishes with far less success.
The people on our money are people who managed to wrangle that dark magic of 'Pissed Off American' for a while without destroying the country.
@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox A bunch of the people who knew how destructive and terrible Pissed Off Americans could be... who spent DECADES going "Let's see if we can just contain these couple of grumps and trust these folks who say they have it handled and know how to keep 'em calm" are now glowing Red, White, and Blue with the flames of apoplexy at the sheer incompetence and unbridled pettyness.
All the "When they go low we go high" folks are now basically going "High road's closed."
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right but we can still vote and elect dems to control congress and freeze his agenda
this whole sentiment "the usa is already nazi germany" is self-defeating: you want trump to lose, right? so why act like he already won everything? trump is not untouchable. why act like he is? do you want to help trump? i don't think so, but that's what your words are doing because you're presenting a fallacious rationale that voting doesn't matter anymore. it still matters
@benroyce @lynfox @ikuturso - absolutely, Americans must vote. Everyone eligible to do so. Without fear of repercussion. Providing the government lets it happen. Or accepts the result.
I don't see a another January 6th - this time led by Democrats - happening. Or without significant bloodshed if it does. -
Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
I agree.. both parties need to give us candidates we can vote FOR, instead of candidates to vote AGAINST...
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@benroyce @lynfox @ikuturso - absolutely, Americans must vote. Everyone eligible to do so. Without fear of repercussion. Providing the government lets it happen. Or accepts the result.
I don't see a another January 6th - this time led by Democrats - happening. Or without significant bloodshed if it does.thank you
i just worry about talk that paints it as if trump is insurmountable. it deadens people's spirits
trump is defeatable
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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
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I agree.. both parties need to give us candidates we can vote FOR, instead of candidates to vote AGAINST...
100% agreed
but even if we don't get that, you still vote for the candidate that isn't an outright fascist. it's just self-preservation
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It's completely crazy.
That being said, and I may be get it for saying it, is that I think the entire organised football whatever is disgusting; football stars have nasty glittering egos; the organisation is all about money, boot licking, and even more money; and supporters behave like football is war.
Also: I never understood all the destruction and hooliganism. Why not ALWAYS be happy for the winning team, then it's always a party!
@pascaline @benroyce sadly that happens in all sports, holliganism and destruction, football isn't alone in that.
But yes although football is massive here in the UK, I've never got it. Watched the odd World Cup, but not really into sportsball. I was constantly criticised at school for not getting into team sports, and the fans of same can be very homophobic so avoided.
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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
When I see this sort of thing:
"As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA"I'm thinking about the people around me, here in Wisconsin, dependent on tourist business - it's pretty terrible up here just now.
Not a milligram of nuance to anything said around here.
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100% agreed
but even if we don't get that, you still vote for the candidate that isn't an outright fascist. it's just self-preservation
Pretty much why I've voted third party for the last six elections...
I keep hoping more people do so, so a third party can get into the debates and provide another point of view, and someone else to vote for.
Maybe the rise of a third party will make the other two pull their heads out of their butts and do the job right, because NEITHER party has done so in recent memory....
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@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox A bunch of the people who knew how destructive and terrible Pissed Off Americans could be... who spent DECADES going "Let's see if we can just contain these couple of grumps and trust these folks who say they have it handled and know how to keep 'em calm" are now glowing Red, White, and Blue with the flames of apoplexy at the sheer incompetence and unbridled pettyness.
All the "When they go low we go high" folks are now basically going "High road's closed."
@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about Karens.
Now imagine Karen with G-Wagon/Cybertruck/Yank-Tank with her kids in it and no fucks to give because she just saw her friend and neighbor get popped by someone 'Not From Their Town'?
She'll knock down whatever gravy seal, park with a wheel on his chest, and live stream them going through compartmentalization syndrome while calmly telling him he deserves it because he messed up her brunch plans with the lady he just shot.
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that's correct
avoid the usa. completely. florida. nevada. wisconsin. everywhere
zero nuance intended. zero nuance required
the country is acting in ways that can not and should not pass without consequence
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that's correct
avoid the usa. completely. florida. nevada. wisconsin. everywhere
zero nuance intended. zero nuance required
the country is acting in ways that can not and should not pass without consequence
Consequences for whom? Sure does make ethics a lot simpler when you can just throw us all in your Hefty Bag.
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@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about Karens.
Now imagine Karen with G-Wagon/Cybertruck/Yank-Tank with her kids in it and no fucks to give because she just saw her friend and neighbor get popped by someone 'Not From Their Town'?
She'll knock down whatever gravy seal, park with a wheel on his chest, and live stream them going through compartmentalization syndrome while calmly telling him he deserves it because he messed up her brunch plans with the lady he just shot.
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@pascaline @benroyce sadly that happens in all sports, holliganism and destruction, football isn't alone in that.
But yes although football is massive here in the UK, I've never got it. Watched the odd World Cup, but not really into sportsball. I was constantly criticised at school for not getting into team sports, and the fans of same can be very homophobic so avoided.
Ah yes, the outcast because one doesn't like team sports. I was like that as well. Oh wait, I was an outcast for all other reasons, too.
There was something similar to dodgeball in school, I so disliked it. I didn't understand why one would want to hurt someone by hitting them as hard as possible.
The other children didn't want to play badminton with me because I kept throwing them impossible to hit shuttles. I never understood. Hitting a shuttle was simple. -
Pretty much why I've voted third party for the last six elections...
I keep hoping more people do so, so a third party can get into the debates and provide another point of view, and someone else to vote for.
Maybe the rise of a third party will make the other two pull their heads out of their butts and do the job right, because NEITHER party has done so in recent memory....
the usa is an fptp voting system
there can only ever be 2 parties. it's not corruption (corruption exists, but it's not the reason). it's just math:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law
to get viable 3rd parties we need a new voting system, like ranked choice. then you can vote your conscience free and clear and not worry about dreary strategy
ranked choice is creeping in in places
but if you vote 3rd party *before* we get that you divide the left vote and help MAGA win
you can't vote 3rd party
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Consequences for whom? Sure does make ethics a lot simpler when you can just throw us all in your Hefty Bag.
the hefty bag called the reality of living in a country. and yes we are all in it. and there is no alternative. who leads us has consequences, as a whole group
i'm not proposing a path. i'm describing the path we are on
don't shoot the messenger
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Ah yes, the outcast because one doesn't like team sports. I was like that as well. Oh wait, I was an outcast for all other reasons, too.
There was something similar to dodgeball in school, I so disliked it. I didn't understand why one would want to hurt someone by hitting them as hard as possible.
The other children didn't want to play badminton with me because I kept throwing them impossible to hit shuttles. I never understood. Hitting a shuttle was simple.@pascaline @benroyce the weird thing?
At break, I was happy to play rounders - someone brought in a ball and bat...or football with a tennis ball with my mates - with one goal made of bags or coats!
But when it came to organised games, I was always picked last and the PE teachers would give me aggro.
So I wasn't against sports, or exercise but something horrible came in when it was made official. Competitiveness is ugly.
