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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

    #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

    Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

    As an American: don't come here

    Don't do business with the #USA

    Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

    https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

    #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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    #53

    @benroyce

    When I see this sort of thing:

    "As an American: don't come here
    Don't do business with the #USA"

    I'm thinking about the people around me, here in Wisconsin, dependent on tourist business - it's pretty terrible up here just now.

    Not a milligram of nuance to anything said around here.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @admin

      100% agreed

      but even if we don't get that, you still vote for the candidate that isn't an outright fascist. it's just self-preservation

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      #54

      @benroyce

      Pretty much why I've voted third party for the last six elections...

      I keep hoping more people do so, so a third party can get into the debates and provide another point of view, and someone else to vote for.

      Maybe the rise of a third party will make the other two pull their heads out of their butts and do the job right, because NEITHER party has done so in recent memory....

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      • epilonious@toot.lgbtE epilonious@toot.lgbt

        @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox A bunch of the people who knew how destructive and terrible Pissed Off Americans could be... who spent DECADES going "Let's see if we can just contain these couple of grumps and trust these folks who say they have it handled and know how to keep 'em calm" are now glowing Red, White, and Blue with the flames of apoplexy at the sheer incompetence and unbridled pettyness.

        All the "When they go low we go high" folks are now basically going "High road's closed."

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        #55

        @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about Karens.

        Now imagine Karen with G-Wagon/Cybertruck/Yank-Tank with her kids in it and no fucks to give because she just saw her friend and neighbor get popped by someone 'Not From Their Town'?

        She'll knock down whatever gravy seal, park with a wheel on his chest, and live stream them going through compartmentalization syndrome while calmly telling him he deserves it because he messed up her brunch plans with the lady he just shot.

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        • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

          @benroyce

          When I see this sort of thing:

          "As an American: don't come here
          Don't do business with the #USA"

          I'm thinking about the people around me, here in Wisconsin, dependent on tourist business - it's pretty terrible up here just now.

          Not a milligram of nuance to anything said around here.

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          #56

          @tuban_muzuru

          that's correct

          avoid the usa. completely. florida. nevada. wisconsin. everywhere

          zero nuance intended. zero nuance required

          the country is acting in ways that can not and should not pass without consequence

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @tuban_muzuru

            that's correct

            avoid the usa. completely. florida. nevada. wisconsin. everywhere

            zero nuance intended. zero nuance required

            the country is acting in ways that can not and should not pass without consequence

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            #57

            @benroyce

            Consequences for whom? Sure does make ethics a lot simpler when you can just throw us all in your Hefty Bag.

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            • epilonious@toot.lgbtE epilonious@toot.lgbt

              @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about Karens.

              Now imagine Karen with G-Wagon/Cybertruck/Yank-Tank with her kids in it and no fucks to give because she just saw her friend and neighbor get popped by someone 'Not From Their Town'?

              She'll knock down whatever gravy seal, park with a wheel on his chest, and live stream them going through compartmentalization syndrome while calmly telling him he deserves it because he messed up her brunch plans with the lady he just shot.

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              #58

              @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about rednecks.

              Now imagine rednecks in the woods they grew-up-in sniping at agents, pulling them deeper into the woods, and then wounding one of them so they can draw out the rest of the squad.

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              • epilonious@toot.lgbtE epilonious@toot.lgbt

                @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about rednecks.

                Now imagine rednecks in the woods they grew-up-in sniping at agents, pulling them deeper into the woods, and then wounding one of them so they can draw out the rest of the squad.

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                #59

                @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox America gets rid of governments they don't like.

                American Democracy, for all it's foibles, was the weird, compromise-laden system that tried to get those switches to happen without creating a mass of pissed-off-Americans. And the current government knows it.

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                • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

                  @pascaline @benroyce sadly that happens in all sports, holliganism and destruction, football isn't alone in that.

                  But yes although football is massive here in the UK, I've never got it. Watched the odd World Cup, but not really into sportsball. I was constantly criticised at school for not getting into team sports, and the fans of same can be very homophobic so avoided.

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                  #60

                  @radioclash

                  Ah yes, the outcast because one doesn't like team sports. I was like that as well. Oh wait, I was an outcast for all other reasons, too.

                  There was something similar to dodgeball in school, I so disliked it. I didn't understand why one would want to hurt someone by hitting them as hard as possible.
                  The other children didn't want to play badminton with me because I kept throwing them impossible to hit shuttles. I never understood. Hitting a shuttle was simple.

                  @benroyce

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                  • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                    @benroyce

                    Pretty much why I've voted third party for the last six elections...

                    I keep hoping more people do so, so a third party can get into the debates and provide another point of view, and someone else to vote for.

                    Maybe the rise of a third party will make the other two pull their heads out of their butts and do the job right, because NEITHER party has done so in recent memory....

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                    #61

                    @admin

                    the usa is an fptp voting system

                    there can only ever be 2 parties. it's not corruption (corruption exists, but it's not the reason). it's just math:

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

                    to get viable 3rd parties we need a new voting system, like ranked choice. then you can vote your conscience free and clear and not worry about dreary strategy

                    ranked choice is creeping in in places

                    but if you vote 3rd party *before* we get that you divide the left vote and help MAGA win

                    you can't vote 3rd party

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                    • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                      @benroyce

                      Consequences for whom? Sure does make ethics a lot simpler when you can just throw us all in your Hefty Bag.

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                      #62

                      @tuban_muzuru

                      the hefty bag called the reality of living in a country. and yes we are all in it. and there is no alternative. who leads us has consequences, as a whole group

                      i'm not proposing a path. i'm describing the path we are on

                      don't shoot the messenger

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                      • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

                        @radioclash

                        Ah yes, the outcast because one doesn't like team sports. I was like that as well. Oh wait, I was an outcast for all other reasons, too.

                        There was something similar to dodgeball in school, I so disliked it. I didn't understand why one would want to hurt someone by hitting them as hard as possible.
                        The other children didn't want to play badminton with me because I kept throwing them impossible to hit shuttles. I never understood. Hitting a shuttle was simple.

                        @benroyce

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                        #63

                        @pascaline @benroyce the weird thing?

                        At break, I was happy to play rounders - someone brought in a ball and bat...or football with a tennis ball with my mates - with one goal made of bags or coats!

                        But when it came to organised games, I was always picked last and the PE teachers would give me aggro.

                        So I wasn't against sports, or exercise but something horrible came in when it was made official. Competitiveness is ugly.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @tuban_muzuru

                          the hefty bag called the reality of living in a country. and yes we are all in it. and there is no alternative. who leads us has consequences, as a whole group

                          i'm not proposing a path. i'm describing the path we are on

                          don't shoot the messenger

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                          #64

                          @benroyce

                          I sure wish I was as similarly convinced of the evil of the American public. Yeah, when our leaders run amok, the thing which will convince those rogue elephants of their evil ways is to damage ordinary people who didn't do anything to anyone, just trying to run a business.

                          That's "reality"

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                          • paulatothepeople@climatejustice.socialP paulatothepeople@climatejustice.social

                            @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox Also, even under the premise that voting is meaningless, and Americans have to uprise instead: Voting, and getting everybody to vote is the best way to start an uprising. If millions of people vote and their votes are stolen, then they'll be motivated to uprise. If they stay home thinking their votes don't matter, and then the votes cast don't matter, all they'll do is say "I told you so".

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                            #65

                            @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                            that's right

                            no uprising happens just because someone starts rioting. why are they rioting? what do they stand for? who knows

                            if people vote, and then the vote is denied, and the people rise up: absolutely everyone is crystal clear as to what is happening and why. so people join in, because they know the message being delivered

                            so we have to vote first. otherwise there is no coherency of meaning

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                            • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

                              @radioclash

                              Ah yes, the outcast because one doesn't like team sports. I was like that as well. Oh wait, I was an outcast for all other reasons, too.

                              There was something similar to dodgeball in school, I so disliked it. I didn't understand why one would want to hurt someone by hitting them as hard as possible.
                              The other children didn't want to play badminton with me because I kept throwing them impossible to hit shuttles. I never understood. Hitting a shuttle was simple.

                              @benroyce

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                              #66

                              @pascaline @benroyce also sports were gendered - boys had to play rugby, football and sometimes hockey. Only the girls could play tennis which I wanted to play. And I wasn't good at swimming - again I was abandoned cos I didn't progress fast enough and left to the shallow end.

                              There was no choice, and I didn't like team sports.

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @admin

                                the usa is an fptp voting system

                                there can only ever be 2 parties. it's not corruption (corruption exists, but it's not the reason). it's just math:

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

                                to get viable 3rd parties we need a new voting system, like ranked choice. then you can vote your conscience free and clear and not worry about dreary strategy

                                ranked choice is creeping in in places

                                but if you vote 3rd party *before* we get that you divide the left vote and help MAGA win

                                you can't vote 3rd party

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                                #67

                                @benroyce

                                I don't agree on the necessity of Ranked Choice.

                                In the Presidential elections, the candidates with the most electoral votes wins.

                                It doesn't matter if there are 2 or 20 parties.

                                The system was set up before the "two parties" even existed. The first few elections were party-free; candidates published what they stood for, and people voted based on their wishes.

                                If you vote third party, it's because you don't agree with the left or the right, or their candidates, and that's all.

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                                  but what is the point of this comment in your mind

                                  because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants

                                  you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump

                                  and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting

                                  the only effect is you are helping trump

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                                  #68

                                  @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox Hitler wasn't unstoppable, so neither is Trump or Putin

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                                  • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                                    @benroyce

                                    I sure wish I was as similarly convinced of the evil of the American public. Yeah, when our leaders run amok, the thing which will convince those rogue elephants of their evil ways is to damage ordinary people who didn't do anything to anyone, just trying to run a business.

                                    That's "reality"

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                                    #69

                                    @tuban_muzuru

                                    yes. that is the reality. elections have consequences. and what let us down is nonvoters and MAGA. it is their fault. we will now suffer, because of them. and there is no way around that. i'm not saying it's good, i'm not saying it is bad. i'm saying it is inevitable

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                                    • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                                      @benroyce

                                      I don't agree on the necessity of Ranked Choice.

                                      In the Presidential elections, the candidates with the most electoral votes wins.

                                      It doesn't matter if there are 2 or 20 parties.

                                      The system was set up before the "two parties" even existed. The first few elections were party-free; candidates published what they stood for, and people voted based on their wishes.

                                      If you vote third party, it's because you don't agree with the left or the right, or their candidates, and that's all.

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                                      #70

                                      @admin

                                      no. you don't understand the topic

                                      first past the post means only two parties dominate. they cannibalize the platforms of smaller parties because of the math of the voting system. 3rd parties are unstable in fptp, and fade away

                                      3rd party's only value in our voting system is to divide the left, or the right, and help the other side win

                                      when you vote 3rd party, all you are doing is helping trump. this isn't your intention, but that is exactly what you are doing

                                      it's just math

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                                      • bazcook@mas.toB bazcook@mas.to

                                        @benroyce @ikuturso @lynfox - much of the problem is that states *do* run the national elections. In many countries, the vote is handled by an arms-length federal agency. They set electoral borders (not just the state / provincial borders, but ensuring roughly the same number of voters are in each jurisdiction) and they are responsible for the count procedures. US states have a tendency to invent electoral borders to suit their Party of choice. And then there's your Electoral College...

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                                        #71

                                        @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                                        yes, the us election system is completely fucked up

                                        we need to fix it

                                        how do we do that?

                                        we show up and vote for candidates who will do that

                                        we can't act like the problems are insurmountable and permanent, because that only helps the fascists

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                                          #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                                          Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                                          As an American: don't come here

                                          Don't do business with the #USA

                                          Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                                          https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                                          #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                                          #72

                                          @benroyce Omg I didn't know if these calls to boycott were all hot air... I hoped it would work. I love to hear this. ❤️ 🔥

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