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  3. After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

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  • thomas_klopf@dobbs.townT thomas_klopf@dobbs.town

    @everton137 I’m actually happy mastodon isn’t the defacto public square. This is exactly what Xitter is, and we see what a fun place that is. Putting everyone into one public square (X, Facebook etc) has been a sociological disaster imho. The ‘neighborhoods’ model is better. And I think the relative obscurity of mastodon also just keeps idiots away.

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    #17

    @thomas_klopf @everton137

    i'ts not possible for me to disagree with you more

    essentially what you are doing is surrendering the mass of society to plutocrat manipulation and control

    of course we don't want bigots here. and moderation will nuke them

    but otherwise we want as many people as possible on mastodon

    and frankly, if you disagree, you are foolish

    are you really happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg?

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    • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

      After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

      I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

      If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

      https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

      https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

      #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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      #18

      The post is good for mastodon but sucks for bluesky.

      I have posts that explode on bsky and bomb on the mastodon side. And I say same post literaly

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      • engel@mastodon.socialE engel@mastodon.social

        @everton137 am i crazy for not wanting this to happen. the Fediverse is so cozy rn

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        #19

        @engel @everton137

        yes

        because you are also saying then that you are happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg

        are you really happy with that idea?

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        • gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.deG gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de

          @_elena This! Bluesky in it's history was exactly designed as Dorsey's Twitter was. It it wasn't for Musk then Twitter would have been what Bluesky (the app) is today.

          CC: @ticho @everton137

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          #20

          @gelbphoenix 💯 @ticho @everton137

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          • gabboman@gabboman.xyzG gabboman@gabboman.xyz

            The post is good for mastodon but sucks for bluesky.

            I have posts that explode on bsky and bomb on the mastodon side. And I say same post literaly

            everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @gabboman may you share an example to have an idea what bomb on BlueSky?

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            • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

              After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

              I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

              If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

              https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

              https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

              #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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              #22

              @everton137

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              • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                #23

                @everton137 the metrics are part of the problem.

                The web 2.0 era metrics are ubiquitous, and quantitative. And, on centralized platforms, are gamed at first by people run bots, now by ai bots.

                And algorithms.

                I don't know how bluesky curates content.
                On mastodon, I do my own curation and dip in the fediverse often.

                Because I am interested in quality, not quantity.

                That is a human thing. Because something is popular does not mean it is right or good.

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                • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                  After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                  I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                  If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                  https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                  https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                  #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                  gf493d@theforkiverse.comG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #24

                  @everton137 The fun police make #mastodon pretty much #unusable for most plp. Commenting on anything can soon become a micro #aggregation or insert (offence taken). Nothing gains mass adoption under those circumstances. #commenting become pointless. #ironic #HurtyMcFeelz

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    @CarineMissiaen welcome Carine!

                    Quick question: what are you using to browse Mastodon? Which OS are you on?

                    For desktop computers I would recommend https://Phanpy.social (its Catch Up feature is the best of any web client across all social media IMHO).

                    On iOS I use @ivory - who used the make the excellent Tweetbot and the experience is similar.

                    Feel free to reach out if you need any help!

                    @everton137

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                    #25

                    @_elena @ivory @everton137

                    I'm still using Google. I am used to it. Ant my laptop has Windows. Seldom using a celphone. Only when I don't have a pc in reach.

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                    • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                      After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                      I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                      If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                      https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                      https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                      #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                      #26

                      @everton137 There are some topics which seem to do super well on Mastodon and not so much on BlueSky.

                      AI is another topic that does well on mastodon, but not so much on other social media.

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                      • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                        After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                        I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                        If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                        https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                        https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                        #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                        #27

                        @everton137 @McWabbit and on my timeline Mastodon is growing pretty steady.
                        For years I use the global number of notifications/day as indicator.
                        Where early 2025 it was around 100 on a good day, later it was 100 on average and begin 2026 many days 130-150.

                        (Numbers only say much about the posts itself. It is the interaction on the post that count and have a wide range per post.)

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                        • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                          After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                          I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                          If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                          https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                          https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                          #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                          ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #28

                          @everton137 This is probably because BlueSky is fascist, and it would be hypocritical of its users to repost that message.

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                          • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                            After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                            I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                            If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                            https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                            https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                            #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                            #29

                            @everton137 horses to water it seems, sadly. Even people who joined at my invite/suggestion don’t hate the facist algos enough to develop their presence here. They aren’t stupid, but apparently they are lazy or too busy. 😢😣

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                            • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                              After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                              I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                              If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                              https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                              https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                              #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                              gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              gimulnautti@mastodon.green
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #30

                              @everton137 Algorithms are just more obfuscated tools of control, very simple.

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                              • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

                                @_elena @ivory @everton137

                                I'm still using Google. I am used to it. Ant my laptop has Windows. Seldom using a celphone. Only when I don't have a pc in reach.

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                                #31

                                @CarineMissiaen @ivory @everton137 thanks! in that case Phanpy is phenomenal, as it has cross-platform compatibility. Give it a try (especially the catch up feature)

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                                • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                  After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                  I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                  If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                  https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                  https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                  #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #32

                                  @everton137 Marketing likes classical social media, because it serves statistics on engagement: how many people saw your post, how much time they spent, etc... You have not seen these statistics because you need an advertiser's account.
                                  It is something they can give to their bosses to show that they worked hard.
                                  Mastodon does not offer that. Marketing will not use it.
                                  Which is a good thing.

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                                  • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                    After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                    I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                    If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                    https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                    https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                    #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                                    #33

                                    @everton137 most of those other people, suck.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @engel @everton137

                                      yes

                                      because you are also saying then that you are happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg

                                      are you really happy with that idea?

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                                      #34

                                      @benroyce @engel @everton137

                                      From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

                                      It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

                                      Am I wrong on this point?

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                                      • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

                                        @everton137
                                        I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out 😆 (I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.

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                                        #35

                                        @CarineMissiaen @everton137

                                        hello Carine,
                                        at first sight, you seem to have got fediverse perfectly right, you are here, speaking with people from different instances.

                                        What you consider less intuitive ?

                                        If I can give just a suggestion, without an algorithmic feed bringing you pre cooked content, you have to try to follow much more people, hashtag, lemmy forum compared to what you were used to in the ruined social

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                                        • mywoolymastadon@toot.communityM mywoolymastadon@toot.community

                                          @benroyce @engel @everton137

                                          From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.

                                          It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.

                                          Am I wrong on this point?

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                                          #36

                                          @MyWoolyMastadon @benroyce @engel @everton137

                                          I don't think you're wrong: like life, the fediverse gives you back what you put into it.

                                          Follow nobody, get nothing.
                                          Spend a little time building you follow lists?
                                          Value and fun ensue.

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