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  3. After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

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  • ticho@mas.toT ticho@mas.to

    @everton137 At the risk of being the stereotypical "reply guy", sample size of one post can have misleading results. 🙂

    Amount of boosts/reposts for any given post is as much about having a good message and enough followers, as well as about pure luck, since most people's feeds are moving quickly, and they do not spend all their time glued to their social apps.

    It seems weird that Bluesky, whose raison d'etre was "Twitter, but not evil" would have users this disinterested in this topic. 🤷

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    #8

    @ticho fair but the lack of engagement on Bluesky is truly shocking. Casey Newton has 250k followers there and when he shares one of his articles he may get something like 15 boosts (like, the latest article he shared). Yes 15, not 150.

    I got 400 boosts on Mastodon the last time I shared a link.

    I had a Bluesky account with 1.1k followers and zero interactions. Ditto for Fedi friends who have 6k followers there.

    It's a thing.

    @everton137

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      @ticho fair but the lack of engagement on Bluesky is truly shocking. Casey Newton has 250k followers there and when he shares one of his articles he may get something like 15 boosts (like, the latest article he shared). Yes 15, not 150.

      I got 400 boosts on Mastodon the last time I shared a link.

      I had a Bluesky account with 1.1k followers and zero interactions. Ditto for Fedi friends who have 6k followers there.

      It's a thing.

      @everton137

      ticho@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #9

      @_elena @everton137 Maybe Bluesky has a completely different "usage culture"

      More passive consumption and less interaction.

      More uni-directional broadcasting from "content creators" to "consumers", and less conversation?

      But hm, that would explain fewer replies, but probably not fewer reposts and likes.

      Being no expert, it really seems very strange. Maybe Bluesky is just dead and full of bot squads which only allow certain kinds of messaging to go viral? I hope not!

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      • ticho@mas.toT ticho@mas.to

        @_elena @everton137 Maybe Bluesky has a completely different "usage culture"

        More passive consumption and less interaction.

        More uni-directional broadcasting from "content creators" to "consumers", and less conversation?

        But hm, that would explain fewer replies, but probably not fewer reposts and likes.

        Being no expert, it really seems very strange. Maybe Bluesky is just dead and full of bot squads which only allow certain kinds of messaging to go viral? I hope not!

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        #10

        @ticho I think it replicates a lot of the toxic ways of Twitter, so popular posts are typically those that induce rage. Accounts that post about US politics have A LOT of interactions

        @everton137

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        • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

          After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

          I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

          If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

          https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

          https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

          #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

          bobvanos@mastodon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #11

          @everton137
          I'm no expert. But could it be a difference between a platform that uses an algorithm and one that doesn't?

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          • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

            After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

            I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

            If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

            https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

            https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

            #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

            theowashere@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #12

            @everton137
            I get no shares or likes on either lol

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            • engel@mastodon.socialE engel@mastodon.social

              @everton137 am i crazy for not wanting this to happen. the Fediverse is so cozy rn

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              #13

              @engel And it can be this cozy with even more people in the Fediverse. It's in the design of the Fediverse that you can decide how much you're exposed to others.

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                @ticho I think it replicates a lot of the toxic ways of Twitter, so popular posts are typically those that induce rage. Accounts that post about US politics have A LOT of interactions

                @everton137

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                #14

                @_elena This! Bluesky in it's history was exactly designed as Dorsey's Twitter was. It it wasn't for Musk then Twitter would have been what Bluesky (the app) is today.

                CC: @ticho @everton137

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                • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                  After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                  I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                  If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                  https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                  https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                  #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                  thomas_klopf@dobbs.townT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #15

                  @everton137 I’m actually happy mastodon isn’t the defacto public square. This is exactly what Xitter is, and we see what a fun place that is. Putting everyone into one public square (X, Facebook etc) has been a sociological disaster imho. The ‘neighborhoods’ model is better. And I think the relative obscurity of mastodon also just keeps idiots away.

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                  • carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.beC carinemissiaen@mastodon-belgium.be

                    @everton137
                    I was on only one social medium. And they threw me out 😆 (I seem not to have been the only one - not liking Trump seems to be an offend). Mastodon was the first European alternative I could find, with some people on it. But I still have to find out how to use it. It is much less intuitive.

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                    #16

                    @CarineMissiaen @everton137 Howdy 👋. Here is "Mastodon in 180 seconds". A very good explanation on what is different here. And it gives a good guide on how to start 👍

                    https://tilvids.com/w/wx2iLhD3pTipbKFJKLyx5t

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                    • thomas_klopf@dobbs.townT thomas_klopf@dobbs.town

                      @everton137 I’m actually happy mastodon isn’t the defacto public square. This is exactly what Xitter is, and we see what a fun place that is. Putting everyone into one public square (X, Facebook etc) has been a sociological disaster imho. The ‘neighborhoods’ model is better. And I think the relative obscurity of mastodon also just keeps idiots away.

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                      #17

                      @thomas_klopf @everton137

                      i'ts not possible for me to disagree with you more

                      essentially what you are doing is surrendering the mass of society to plutocrat manipulation and control

                      of course we don't want bigots here. and moderation will nuke them

                      but otherwise we want as many people as possible on mastodon

                      and frankly, if you disagree, you are foolish

                      are you really happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg?

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                      • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                        After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                        I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                        If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                        https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                        https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                        #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                        #18

                        The post is good for mastodon but sucks for bluesky.

                        I have posts that explode on bsky and bomb on the mastodon side. And I say same post literaly

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                        • engel@mastodon.socialE engel@mastodon.social

                          @everton137 am i crazy for not wanting this to happen. the Fediverse is so cozy rn

                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #19

                          @engel @everton137

                          yes

                          because you are also saying then that you are happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg

                          are you really happy with that idea?

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                          • gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.deG gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de

                            @_elena This! Bluesky in it's history was exactly designed as Dorsey's Twitter was. It it wasn't for Musk then Twitter would have been what Bluesky (the app) is today.

                            CC: @ticho @everton137

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                            #20

                            @gelbphoenix 💯 @ticho @everton137

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                            • gabboman@gabboman.xyzG gabboman@gabboman.xyz

                              The post is good for mastodon but sucks for bluesky.

                              I have posts that explode on bsky and bomb on the mastodon side. And I say same post literaly

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                              #21

                              @gabboman may you share an example to have an idea what bomb on BlueSky?

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                              • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                                #22

                                @everton137

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                                • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                  After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                  I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                  If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                  https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                  https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                  #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

                                  knowprose@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #23

                                  @everton137 the metrics are part of the problem.

                                  The web 2.0 era metrics are ubiquitous, and quantitative. And, on centralized platforms, are gamed at first by people run bots, now by ai bots.

                                  And algorithms.

                                  I don't know how bluesky curates content.
                                  On mastodon, I do my own curation and dip in the fediverse often.

                                  Because I am interested in quality, not quantity.

                                  That is a human thing. Because something is popular does not mean it is right or good.

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                                  • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                    After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                    I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                    If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                    https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                    https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                    #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                                    #24

                                    @everton137 The fun police make #mastodon pretty much #unusable for most plp. Commenting on anything can soon become a micro #aggregation or insert (offence taken). Nothing gains mass adoption under those circumstances. #commenting become pointless. #ironic #HurtyMcFeelz

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      @CarineMissiaen welcome Carine!

                                      Quick question: what are you using to browse Mastodon? Which OS are you on?

                                      For desktop computers I would recommend https://Phanpy.social (its Catch Up feature is the best of any web client across all social media IMHO).

                                      On iOS I use @ivory - who used the make the excellent Tweetbot and the experience is similar.

                                      Feel free to reach out if you need any help!

                                      @everton137

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                                      #25

                                      @_elena @ivory @everton137

                                      I'm still using Google. I am used to it. Ant my laptop has Windows. Seldom using a celphone. Only when I don't have a pc in reach.

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                                      • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                        After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                        I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                        If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                        https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                        https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                        #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                                        #26

                                        @everton137 There are some topics which seem to do super well on Mastodon and not so much on BlueSky.

                                        AI is another topic that does well on mastodon, but not so much on other social media.

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                                        • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                                          After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.

                                          I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.

                                          If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.

                                          https://mastodon.social/@leavex/116127855796326212

                                          https://bsky.app/profile/leavex.eu/post/3mfn6c3cg5k2f

                                          #Mastodon #BlueSky #Fediverse #SocialMedia #LeaveX

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                                          #27

                                          @everton137 @McWabbit and on my timeline Mastodon is growing pretty steady.
                                          For years I use the global number of notifications/day as indicator.
                                          Where early 2025 it was around 100 on a good day, later it was 100 on average and begin 2026 many days 130-150.

                                          (Numbers only say much about the posts itself. It is the interaction on the post that count and have a wide range per post.)

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