So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
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@Remittancegirl The infuriatingly frustrating thing to me is that people don't understand the nature of timing.
All these morons going to BlueSky and similar don't "get" that the trap is to make it feel functional enough ... and then they shut the jaws of the trap just before elections to maximize the impact and leave the victims with too little time to recover.
FWIW, No Kings/Indivisible are also here on Mastodon. So they're doing better than most. But their followers elsewhere? No excuse.
National Indivisible is here. Local Indivisible's are pretty rare here. My local had not heard of mastodon. I suggested that they organize here. Not enough reach they say. I don't want to download another app they say. Don't make me learn something new they say. It's too complicated they say. Blah blah blah.
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@roblosricos OK, but what about their followers who made themselves reachable only via oligarch media?
IMO, movements like #nokings should have been dropping hints to their supporters that they need to focus their attention on better platforms.
@tasket @roblosricos
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So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
@Remittancegirl Meta/IG's action against the pro-democracy organizers is the actual biased-media suppression alleged by right-wingers. The difference is that this time it actually happened.
Sadly, but hopefully, this incident was necessary to demonstrate proof: of the danger, as well as Meta's intentions.
No Kings was organizing on IG because IG is where the people are. There is now clear evidence that it is time for the people to change that fact.
That was a tactic even Trump's people managed to figure out: when Meta booted him, he had Truth Social spun up on Mastodon's codebase -
So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
The myths that you have to be on the platform because everyone else is there and they won’t go elsewhere is bullshit.
Ask MySpace.
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So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
@Remittancegirl "RSVP for the protest" set off my alarms from the beginning. Never have, never will.
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@kelleynnn I'm not in the US. I'm not American.
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So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
@Remittancegirl Written before the Saturday rallies
No Kings. No Demands. What Happened?
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/no-kings.-no-demands.-what-happened -
So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
@Remittancegirl The No Kings movement uses many other communications platforms too, (it’s not either/or) so I wouldn’t say that the organizers are depending on it. If you back their cause, your encouragement would be more effective than your criticism.
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@Remittancegirl The No Kings movement uses many other communications platforms too, (it’s not either/or) so I wouldn’t say that the organizers are depending on it. If you back their cause, your encouragement would be more effective than your criticism.
@mikesax I do back their cause. But their cause is not my cause. I am not American.
And if you have looked at the totality of my timeline, you would know that.
But when criticism is due, it's due. And better now than when all the accounts on all their tech-bro owned plaforms disappear at once, perhaps my criticism will have prompted them to diversify.
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So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
@Remittancegirl Jeepers. Are there no limits to these people's naivety?
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@tomjennings This technology is here to stay, it isn't going away.
It is what we do with it and what we demand of it and how we shape it (where we can) that matters. But we can and should mitigate the perils as much as we can.
And yes, you are right: the internet is not a safe space. But then where is a safe space?
I agree wholeheartedly that meeting in the flesh is good - not just to lessen dependence on digital communication - but because what is experienced in the body more powerful.
I apologize for the rant. In my heat about it i was reacting to this common groundless myth of the internet as the modern thing better than what came
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I apologize for the rant. In my heat about it i was reacting to this common groundless myth of the internet as the modern thing better than what came
@tomjennings Hey, Tom, no need to apologise at all. But I also want to warn against the trap of nostalgia. It simply is so unproductive.
Love it or hate it, the internet has changed us profoundly - socially and individually. It isn't going away. The challenge is, to find a way to keep the things we cared about before it came, and to mitigate the obvious damage it can do.
We can never go home. But we can have some say in the new place we find ourself in.
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@tomjennings Hey, Tom, no need to apologise at all. But I also want to warn against the trap of nostalgia. It simply is so unproductive.
Love it or hate it, the internet has changed us profoundly - socially and individually. It isn't going away. The challenge is, to find a way to keep the things we cared about before it came, and to mitigate the obvious damage it can do.
We can never go home. But we can have some say in the new place we find ourself in.
Right. There's no back to go to, though I didn't have that in mind. All i meant is it means not swallowing the ideologies and myths about the Internet as freedom. The 1995 promises (implications, really) run deep. Phone lines were bad enough; but they were at least regulated, fwiw. Those don't even exist any more.
We have Internet tools that work, but none of them are "convenient" in the way meta google apple's are. Almost no one I know irl wil change their the daily habits. Its maddening and frustrating.
Maybe metas recent act will have some effect.
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Right. There's no back to go to, though I didn't have that in mind. All i meant is it means not swallowing the ideologies and myths about the Internet as freedom. The 1995 promises (implications, really) run deep. Phone lines were bad enough; but they were at least regulated, fwiw. Those don't even exist any more.
We have Internet tools that work, but none of them are "convenient" in the way meta google apple's are. Almost no one I know irl wil change their the daily habits. Its maddening and frustrating.
Maybe metas recent act will have some effect.
@tomjennings I'm going to say something that sounds harsh, and I don't enjoy saying it.
The people who won't change their habits simply aren't in enough pain yet.
But also, I think, we've been brainwashed into believing that democracy is easy - that it should be easy.
And for a while, for many, it really was. But no more.
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@tomjennings I'm going to say something that sounds harsh, and I don't enjoy saying it.
The people who won't change their habits simply aren't in enough pain yet.
But also, I think, we've been brainwashed into believing that democracy is easy - that it should be easy.
And for a while, for many, it really was. But no more.
I think you are correct.
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So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
@Remittancegirl Oh, that's wonderful opsec.
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@Remittancegirl If you’re trying to get the people involved, you have to go where the people are
@the_gneech @Remittancegirl You have to reach them, but if they’re all locked in a nazi bar in which all non-nazi utterances are punished by banishment then paying entry to that nazi isn’t the way to acomplish that.
Face it, those exclusively locked into the big tech siloes are a lost cause. Until the siloes are broken.
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@tasket @roblosricos
Sadly, that would just get them cancelled faster. -
So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.
So... here's the thing:
DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.
The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.
This is honestly my biggest break with activist communities, and my biggest personal frustration.
I have been consistently mocked for my allegiance to OSS platforms and my disdain for mainstream ones. I've been told several times how the goals of OSS are a sky-castle that can never be (nevermind that we actually *did it*).
And then something like this happens.
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This is honestly my biggest break with activist communities, and my biggest personal frustration.
I have been consistently mocked for my allegiance to OSS platforms and my disdain for mainstream ones. I've been told several times how the goals of OSS are a sky-castle that can never be (nevermind that we actually *did it*).
And then something like this happens.
@emc2 It has to be both frustrating and bewildering.
