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Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

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  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

    Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

    "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

    https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

    https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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    #152

    @fj American trucks are bloody massive but comparing it to a Twingo from 1998 is a little disingenuous.

    The three trucks also mentioned (F-150, Silverado and 1500) are also much smaller than the F-350 you used too.

    More realistic comparison, Dacia Sandero (apparently best selling car in EU) vs Silverado.

    Still massive in comparison, but not the "wow it's gigantic" in comparison either.

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    • michaelporter@ottawa.placeM michaelporter@ottawa.place

      @ThreeSigma @richlv @fj @reloadedhead A little old, but still relevant: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/24139147/suvs-trucks-popularity-federal-policy-pollution

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #153

      @MichaelPorter @reloadedhead @richlv @fj (article paywalled)

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      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

        Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

        "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

        https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

        https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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        #154

        @fj Nice app. I always wanted to know how far Europe is copying USA.

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        • threesigma@mastodon.onlineT threesigma@mastodon.online

          @MichaelPorter @reloadedhead @richlv @fj (article paywalled)

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          #155

          @ThreeSigma @reloadedhead @richlv @fj Odd, I didn't have trouble reading it (not a subscriber). Do they have a monthly limit that you ran into, maybe?

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          • mikaeleiman@mastodon.sdf.orgM mikaeleiman@mastodon.sdf.org

            @disco3000 if only someone made a not-huge seven seat car… Sigh.

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            #156

            @mikaeleiman @disco3000

            They made seven/eight seat yet still smallish "station wagons" sixty years ago and I still see plenty of that format driving around now. Who is supposedly stopping anyone building those now, exactly?

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            • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

              @fj why not let people decide if they want such a large vehicle or not?

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              #157

              @reloadedhead @fj I agree. We don't want them.

              So that's decided...

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              • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                #158

                @fj ban the fuck out of them. They're a plague.

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                • P passwordsarehard4@mastodon.social

                  @starlily @mwyman @fj not enough. We got assholes spending $10k to get the emissions devices removed so they can “roll coal” on the libs. It’ll go to gas rations and they’ll find some way to bypass it.

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #159

                  @passwordsarehard4 @mwyman @fj The average drivers of these pavement princesses are not usually jerks with fuck you money. There's very few of those, really.

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                  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                    Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                    "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                    https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                    https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                    jackmexa4@mastodon.social
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                    #160

                    @fj

                    Now with humans!

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                    • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                      Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                      "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                      https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                      https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                      #161

                      @fj
                      "What a big car you have!"
                      "All the better to kill you with!"
                      With apologies to little red riding hood

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                      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                        Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                        "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                        https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                        https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                        #162

                        @fj And out of our car parks 👍

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                        • reloadedhead@mastodon.socialR reloadedhead@mastodon.social

                          @fj why not let people decide if they want such a large vehicle or not?

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                          #163
                          @reloadedhead @fj
                          maybe because the ones most endangered are not the ones driving such vehicles?
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                          • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                            Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                            "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                            https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                            https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                            #164

                            @fj I wish we could keep them off of US roads too...

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                            • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                              Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                              "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                              https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                              https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                              #165

                              @fj

                              Good luck.

                              Canadian roads are a lot less safe since they got filled with these monsters, and the more there are, the more people want them because if you're in a small car you are more likely to get crushed by one, and the people who drive them like to intimidate people in smaller cars and can't see small people in parking lots.

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                              • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

                                @uint8_t @ghard @simon_brooke @fj

                                So far, zero emission vehicles have just about zero tax in NL, at sale. I don't know about the road tax.

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                                #166

                                @CelloMomOnCars @ghard @simon_brooke @fj Germany has BEV motor vehicle tax set to 0% until 2030, I think NL is similar

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                                • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                                  Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                                  "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                                  https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                                  https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                                  #167

                                  @fj In a small suburban town of the US. Most people on my street have a giant truck like this. They never seem to haul anything with them. And they all like to start their ridiculously loud and smelly engines up, only to idle for 10-20 minutes before leaving. Never a quiet moment.

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                                  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                                    Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                                    "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                                    https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                                    https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                                    #168

                                    @fj gods, I wish we could get them off US roads. Without fail they are always the meanest, rudest drivers.

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                                    • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                                      Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                                      "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                                      https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                                      https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                                      #169

                                      @fj I was in a parking last week where one of those testicars was parked: it was so wide it spread on the adjacent parking place, unusable. And it was so long that it was >1m in the alley, so incoming and outgoing cars could not cross each other.
                                      They should simply impose a max width and length for car in public parkings.

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                                      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                                        Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

                                        "US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”

                                        https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd

                                        https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/renault-twingo-1998-3-door-hatchback-vs-ford-f-350-2016-4-door-pickup-crew-cab/

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                                        #170

                                        @fj let's hope the Commission keeps it's nerve and slowly reduces the frustration not heights of cars. Even EU ones are getting higher and more dangerous to children and all pedestrians.

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                                        • rin3d@mastodon.socialR rin3d@mastodon.social

                                          @killionaire @fj yep stupid government tied emissions requirements to foot print size and shits been getting bigger ever since.

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                                          #171

                                          @Rin3d @killionaire @fj No small trucks in the US because of a 60 year old law.
                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

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