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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

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  • ferrix@mastodon.onlineF ferrix@mastodon.online

    @jalefkowit all public entities must use fashy single-letter networks

    maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #20

    @ferrix @jalefkowit If W is a repsonse to X, Mastodon should just change its name to U.

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    • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

      Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

      Oh, right

      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

      sztupy@social.sztupy.huS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #21

      They've also sided with EuroOffice instead of LibreOffice for god knows why, but likely similar reasons.

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      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

        Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

        Oh, right

        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

        shamhatt@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #22

        @jalefkowit wouldn't be too bothered, their main selling point is connecting "verified humans" so I expect that they will ask for some sort of I.D. - in my view this is just as good as them digging their own grave -
        #Smart_Arses

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        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

          Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

          Oh, right

          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

          johnweeks@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          johnweeks@mastodon.social
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          #23

          @LaurensHof

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          • foolishowl@social.coopF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #24

            @jalefkowit A lot of people will talk about looking for services not based in the US, and there are good reasons to do so, but it's not like Europe isn't cut from the same cloth.

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            • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

              Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

              Oh, right

              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

              gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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              gimulnautti@mastodon.green
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              #25

              @jalefkowit I’m feeling strongly Caine from the The Amazing Digital Circus here … 🤔🥶

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              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                Oh, right

                https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                #26

                @jalefkowit An utter stupidity…

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                • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                  Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                  Oh, right

                  https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                  timo_micro@scicomm.xyzT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #27

                  @jalefkowit it was launched at Davos. I doubt there are many good things coming out of Davos.

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                  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                    Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                    Oh, right

                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                    murodegrizeco@toad.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    murodegrizeco@toad.social
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                    #28

                    @jalefkowit

                    "Very powerful, well-connected people" are a big part of why we are living in a dystopian nightmare.

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                    • shamhatt@mastodon.socialS shamhatt@mastodon.social

                      @jalefkowit wouldn't be too bothered, their main selling point is connecting "verified humans" so I expect that they will ask for some sort of I.D. - in my view this is just as good as them digging their own grave -
                      #Smart_Arses

                      adamsaidsomething@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #29

                      @Shamhatt @jalefkowit

                      I'm sure that's part of the reason why the E.U. is happy to waste money on it, apart from all the rich influential people on the advisor board. I'm sure "W Social" will happily comply with the "age verification" surveillance agenda promoted/mandated by the E.U., E.U. member countries and other autocratic states around the world, maybe it will even integrate the E.U. "age verification" app which they already paid 4 million for!

                      https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-brussels-launched-age-checking-app-hackers-say-took-them-2-minutes-break-it

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                      • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #30

                        @jalefkowit no, yeah, sigh. it's a bit of a recurring problem

                        part of it is because they're playing two different games. power and popularity is a very different goal from helping people do things

                        thinking that way has helped us accept it, over the years..... but maybe the stakes are high enough that we should not accept it. hm.

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                        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                          Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                          Oh, right

                          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                          flohlaus@det.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #31

                          @jalefkowit better Marketing/Lobbying? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                          • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                            Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                            Oh, right

                            https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                            mim54@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #32

                            @jalefkowit maybe because they can’t “control “ Mastodon?

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                            • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                              Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                              Oh, right

                              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                              karmalakas@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              karmalakas@mastodon.social
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                              #33

                              @jalefkowit because @digitaleu is what it is 🤷‍♂️ They even deleted their post about AI labeling, when comments pointed out the obvious...
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcXMhwF4EtQ&t=46

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                              • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                                @jalefkowit no, yeah, sigh. it's a bit of a recurring problem

                                part of it is because they're playing two different games. power and popularity is a very different goal from helping people do things

                                thinking that way has helped us accept it, over the years..... but maybe the stakes are high enough that we should not accept it. hm.

                                miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #34

                                @ireneista @jalefkowit Honestly, a critical mass of people accepting this sort of thing is why it can happen in cases where the stakes are so high in the first place?
                                Accepting shitty behaviour gives (social) permission to keep doing the shitty thing.

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                                • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

                                  @ireneista @jalefkowit Honestly, a critical mass of people accepting this sort of thing is why it can happen in cases where the stakes are so high in the first place?
                                  Accepting shitty behaviour gives (social) permission to keep doing the shitty thing.

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                                  #35

                                  @miss_rodent @jalefkowit yeah, sigh, that sounds right. "the standard you walk past is the standard you accept"

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                                  • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                                    @miss_rodent @jalefkowit yeah, sigh, that sounds right. "the standard you walk past is the standard you accept"

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                                    #36

                                    @ireneista @miss_rodent @jalefkowit Yes, and also choosing one's battles. There's a tension there but there's wisdom in each?

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                                    • gnyman@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #37

                                      @jalefkowit mastodon has been around for so long and also is different on an idealistic level so I don't think it can compete for the masses.

                                      And I wouldn't say EU hasn't been trying, they have funded mastodon through nlnet and they are trying, @HennaVirkkunen is here.

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                                      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                        Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                                        Oh, right

                                        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                        jagermo@defcon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #38

                                        @jalefkowit
                                        Fucking Rössler is part of this? Yeah, no. That guy has more red flags than a sowjet parade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_R%C3%B6sler

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                                        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                          Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                                          Oh, right

                                          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

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                                          stefanie@social.anoxinon.de
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                                          #39

                                          @jalefkowit I think the issue is that moderation on mastodon is decentralized. That makes it effectively impossible to enforce strict rules from the top down.
                                          People in power will not support a platform that doesn't give them absolute power.

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