Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
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@jalefkowit A lot of people will talk about looking for services not based in the US, and there are good reasons to do so, but it's not like Europe isn't cut from the same cloth.
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit I’m feeling strongly Caine from the The Amazing Digital Circus here …
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit An utter stupidity…
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit it was launched at Davos. I doubt there are many good things coming out of Davos.
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
"Very powerful, well-connected people" are a big part of why we are living in a dystopian nightmare.
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@jalefkowit wouldn't be too bothered, their main selling point is connecting "verified humans" so I expect that they will ask for some sort of I.D. - in my view this is just as good as them digging their own grave -
#Smart_ArsesI'm sure that's part of the reason why the E.U. is happy to waste money on it, apart from all the rich influential people on the advisor board. I'm sure "W Social" will happily comply with the "age verification" surveillance agenda promoted/mandated by the E.U., E.U. member countries and other autocratic states around the world, maybe it will even integrate the E.U. "age verification" app which they already paid 4 million for!
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@jalefkowit no, yeah, sigh. it's a bit of a recurring problem
part of it is because they're playing two different games. power and popularity is a very different goal from helping people do things
thinking that way has helped us accept it, over the years..... but maybe the stakes are high enough that we should not accept it. hm.
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit better Marketing/Lobbying?
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit maybe because they can’t “control “ Mastodon?
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit because @digitaleu is what it is
️ They even deleted their post about AI labeling, when comments pointed out the obvious...
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@jalefkowit no, yeah, sigh. it's a bit of a recurring problem
part of it is because they're playing two different games. power and popularity is a very different goal from helping people do things
thinking that way has helped us accept it, over the years..... but maybe the stakes are high enough that we should not accept it. hm.
@ireneista @jalefkowit Honestly, a critical mass of people accepting this sort of thing is why it can happen in cases where the stakes are so high in the first place?
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@ireneista @jalefkowit Honestly, a critical mass of people accepting this sort of thing is why it can happen in cases where the stakes are so high in the first place?
Accepting shitty behaviour gives (social) permission to keep doing the shitty thing.@miss_rodent @jalefkowit yeah, sigh, that sounds right. "the standard you walk past is the standard you accept"
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@miss_rodent @jalefkowit yeah, sigh, that sounds right. "the standard you walk past is the standard you accept"
@ireneista @miss_rodent @jalefkowit Yes, and also choosing one's battles. There's a tension there but there's wisdom in each?
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@jalefkowit mastodon has been around for so long and also is different on an idealistic level so I don't think it can compete for the masses.
And I wouldn't say EU hasn't been trying, they have funded mastodon through nlnet and they are trying, @HennaVirkkunen is here.
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit
Fucking Rössler is part of this? Yeah, no. That guy has more red flags than a sowjet parade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_R%C3%B6sler -
Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit I think the issue is that moderation on mastodon is decentralized. That makes it effectively impossible to enforce strict rules from the top down.
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@ireneista @miss_rodent @jalefkowit Yes, and also choosing one's battles. There's a tension there but there's wisdom in each?
@xgranade @miss_rodent @jalefkowit these are important questions, but they're backwards-looking. to focus on the future: what should our strategy be?
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit Philipp Rösler????? Der lebt noch? Da haben sie aber echte Lappen hinter dem Ofen vorgezogen...
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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
@jalefkowit
Never heard of it. But I don't use other socials, only Mastodon -
Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?
Oh, right
https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/
This is reaching too far into conspiracy theory.
Sounds like W Social simply offers government more chance for, well, governance than something like Mastodon would.
No need to look for drama or personalities. Government wants to govern.
