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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

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  • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

    @admin @benroyce Apparently you don’t understand how ranked choice voting works. For example, in your state, there are three candidates to choose for president. Your first choice is A, second choice is B. If your A choice fails to gather enough votes to win, then your vote would shift to B. This allows people to vote for who they want and not worry about spoilers, because if your guy/gal doesn’t make it, then your vote is not wasted. Not complicated.

    admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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    admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #152

    @Huntn00

    Actually, I do...

    Ranked Choice means that if the candidate I do like doesn't get enough votes, then the candidates I don't like can "steal" my vote.

    Now, tell me, why would I want a candidate that I don't want in office (which describes the last 8 elections - or more - in the US for me) to be able to count my vote for them, rather than for the candidate for which I wish to vote?

    @benroyce

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    • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

      @benroyce

      When I see this sort of thing:

      "As an American: don't come here
      Don't do business with the #USA"

      I'm thinking about the people around me, here in Wisconsin, dependent on tourist business - it's pretty terrible up here just now.

      Not a milligram of nuance to anything said around here.

      huntn00@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #153

      @tuban_muzuru @benroyce This (don’t come to America) is a cause and effect argument. Unfortunately an element of this strategy is logic. Some of us can only learn when we see the negative results of our actions, and unfortunately we all, good and bad will suffer, but it’s the only real way to fix this. The world must treat the US as pariahs for us to collectively get the message. Some good people will unfortunately suffer more than they deserve. 😔

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

        #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

        Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

        As an American: don't come here

        Don't do business with the #USA

        Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

        https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

        #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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        mast0d0nphan@beige.party
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #154

        @benroyce Remember to boycott any livestreams of the FIFA World Cup, as well as any other branches of FIFA, like their games division.

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        • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

          @Huntn00

          So does the current system...

          @benroyce

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          benroyce@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #155

          @admin @Huntn00

          Because the founders of the country weren't mathematicians. So the system is broken. And you are choosing to not understand how it is broken. We're asking you to understand the math. Did you watch the video link I sent you? It's quite good. You will understand the reality you are stuck in (again, it has nothing to do with opinions or religion, just mathematical facts)

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          • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

            @tuban_muzuru @benroyce This (don’t come to America) is a cause and effect argument. Unfortunately an element of this strategy is logic. Some of us can only learn when we see the negative results of our actions, and unfortunately we all, good and bad will suffer, but it’s the only real way to fix this. The world must treat the US as pariahs for us to collectively get the message. Some good people will unfortunately suffer more than they deserve. 😔

            tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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            tuban_muzuru@beige.party
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #156

            @Huntn00 @benroyce

            What's your explanation for the alienated Democratic voter - and there are a lot of us.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

              #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

              Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

              As an American: don't come here

              Don't do business with the #USA

              Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

              https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

              #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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              threenotch@mastodonapp.uk
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #157

              @benroyce 1. FIFA is a total shitshow. 2. Yes tourism should die at least until DJT and his cabal of criminals are jailed.

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              • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                @Huntn00

                Actually, I do...

                Ranked Choice means that if the candidate I do like doesn't get enough votes, then the candidates I don't like can "steal" my vote.

                Now, tell me, why would I want a candidate that I don't want in office (which describes the last 8 elections - or more - in the US for me) to be able to count my vote for them, rather than for the candidate for which I wish to vote?

                @benroyce

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #158

                @admin @Huntn00

                what you just wrote is a lie

                your first rank gets your vote. if they don't win, your second choice gets your vote

                so you can vote your conscience, without worrying that your vote will divide the left and hand a win to trump. which is what happens with a 3rd party vote in fptp

                again: fact. not opinion

                why would you lie about this

                it's quite obvious what it is

                mathematicians have studied this. you can't deny reality just with your feelings

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                • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                  @benroyce

                  No, it's policy. We decide to tell people not to come here, don't do business here - how will that get more people to vote for reasonable candidates?

                  It won't and we both know it.

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                  huntn00@mastodon.world
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #159

                  @tuban_muzuru @benroyce Who do you think would actually want to come here for pleasure or business if there’s a good chance they’ll be detained as an enemy of Humpty “until we get to scrutinize you properly and generally abuse you, maybe send you to a foreign prison?” What a great vacation! 😳

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @admin @Huntn00

                    what you just wrote is a lie

                    your first rank gets your vote. if they don't win, your second choice gets your vote

                    so you can vote your conscience, without worrying that your vote will divide the left and hand a win to trump. which is what happens with a 3rd party vote in fptp

                    again: fact. not opinion

                    why would you lie about this

                    it's quite obvious what it is

                    mathematicians have studied this. you can't deny reality just with your feelings

                    admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #160

                    @benroyce

                    From the way I understand it, ranked choice requires all candidates to get a vote, in order....

                    I can't *ONLY* vote for the candidates that I want in office, I *MUST* rank all the candidates in order of preference.

                    If my candidate doesn't win, then my "second choice" (which isn't someone I want in office) gets my vote.

                    This is not how I wish to vote.

                    @Huntn00

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                      #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                      Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                      As an American: don't come here

                      Don't do business with the #USA

                      Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                      https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                      #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                      james@todon.eu
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #161

                      @benroyce ينبغي أن يقتصر الأمر على المكسيك وكندا فقط.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @admin @Huntn00

                        what you just wrote is a lie

                        your first rank gets your vote. if they don't win, your second choice gets your vote

                        so you can vote your conscience, without worrying that your vote will divide the left and hand a win to trump. which is what happens with a 3rd party vote in fptp

                        again: fact. not opinion

                        why would you lie about this

                        it's quite obvious what it is

                        mathematicians have studied this. you can't deny reality just with your feelings

                        admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #162

                        @benroyce

                        Also, that's the last time you're going to call me a liar.

                        There is nothing further to be gained from this discussion.

                        @Huntn00

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @tuban_muzuru

                          i don't think canadians are ceasing to come because i got on social media and said the usa sucks

                          i do think canadians are ceasing to come because an orange turd got on social media and threatened to annex them

                          the question is why the orange turd can do that

                          and the answer is because enough couldn't be bothered to vote, and enough are ignorants who love bigotry, that he is in power

                          it's not anything we control anymore

                          we had control, and we blew it

                          we better vote next time

                          naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          naturemc@mastodon.online
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #163

                          @benroyce @tuban_muzuru Just speaking for Europe: It doesn't matter what is said in social media.
                          We have warnings by our Foreign ministries how to behave, and we read in our newspapers how innocent tourists were either prevented from entering the United States in the first place, or were repeatedly detained and hidden away in dubious prison camps before our embassies secured their release.
                          These facts are enough, we don't need social media. Your government does enough to keep people away.

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                          • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                            @Huntn00 @benroyce

                            What's your explanation for the alienated Democratic voter - and there are a lot of us.

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                            huntn00@mastodon.world
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #164

                            @tuban_muzuru @benroyce It’s my explanation about why foreigners should not be spending $$$ in the TSA. Ok, listen, if you’re alienated, the last thing you want is to be ruled by fascists. Some pragmatism is required, relative good vs bad, move in steps, you won’t find perfect, chose better.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                              #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                              Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                              As an American: don't come here

                              Don't do business with the #USA

                              Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                              https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                              #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #165

                              @benroyce
                              That would be just *awful* if the whole World Cup thing fizzled and turned into a normally manageable few weekends here in #Seattle instead of the freaking Defcon 1 situation we've been hearing about for over a year.

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                              • J johnrohde@helvede.net

                                @benroyce There is also a european wide campaign going to migrate away from US big tech. That one is going to hurt even more.
                                So far I've gotten rid of the streaming services, the social media, Microsoft and amazon. I'm currently working on leaving Google but that one is a bit more tricky.

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                                huntn00@mastodon.world
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #166

                                @johnrohde @benroyce It is the only way it will register on the Bs…
                                which should not even exist, as they are a huge part of our problems. 😳

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @admin @Huntn00

                                  what you just wrote is a lie

                                  your first rank gets your vote. if they don't win, your second choice gets your vote

                                  so you can vote your conscience, without worrying that your vote will divide the left and hand a win to trump. which is what happens with a 3rd party vote in fptp

                                  again: fact. not opinion

                                  why would you lie about this

                                  it's quite obvious what it is

                                  mathematicians have studied this. you can't deny reality just with your feelings

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                                  benroyce@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #167

                                  @admin @Huntn00

                                  and... blocked

                                  😂

                                  it's like arguing with an antivaxxer

                                  they just don't want to accept reality

                                  they have their belief. their belief is false. hard, cold false

                                  but they won't hear it. their mind is shut

                                  willful ignorance

                                  this person is actively supporting trump, and has absolutely no clue that is all they are doing. in the reality of the voting system. their intentions may be great. but math doesn't lie

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                                    #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                                    Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                                    As an American: don't come here

                                    Don't do business with the #USA

                                    Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                                    https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                                    #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

                                    chx@chx.contactC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    chx@chx.contact
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #168

                                    @benroyce This is unsourced fake news.

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                                    • chx@chx.contactC chx@chx.contact

                                      @benroyce This is unsourced fake news.

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                                      benroyce@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #169

                                      @chx

                                      care to explain?

                                      i checked out the site before posting

                                      they are a reputable niche site devoted to ticketing news. headquartered in connecticut, founded in 2006

                                      https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/ticketnews

                                      but yes, fakery on social media is a problem in the world

                                      such as your comment

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                                      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                        @benroyce @tuban_muzuru Just speaking for Europe: It doesn't matter what is said in social media.
                                        We have warnings by our Foreign ministries how to behave, and we read in our newspapers how innocent tourists were either prevented from entering the United States in the first place, or were repeatedly detained and hidden away in dubious prison camps before our embassies secured their release.
                                        These facts are enough, we don't need social media. Your government does enough to keep people away.

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                                        riaresists@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #170

                                        @NatureMC @benroyce @tuban_muzuru And we all wish we could get away.

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                                        • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                                          @benroyce

                                          From the way I understand it, ranked choice requires all candidates to get a vote, in order....

                                          I can't *ONLY* vote for the candidates that I want in office, I *MUST* rank all the candidates in order of preference.

                                          If my candidate doesn't win, then my "second choice" (which isn't someone I want in office) gets my vote.

                                          This is not how I wish to vote.

                                          @Huntn00

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                                          huntn00@mastodon.world
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #171

                                          @admin @benroyce I’ve already described ranked choice to you. Apparently you don’t want to believe how it works.
                                          • Primarily it removes the spoiler effect, and allows you to vote for you really want and not worry about wasting your vote.
                                          • it allows you to pick your green or ultra conservative candidate.
                                          • but if your first choice fails to win, your second preference, the moderate can still prevail maybe.
                                          That’s all I’ll say about it, accept it or not.

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