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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

    Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

    I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

    So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

    Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

    #IT #SysAdmin

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    #32

    @stefano

    Is it not a great way to get your money back?

    Now you can ask €400/HR because AI related issues are more complex and require more efforts.

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    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

      Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

      I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

      So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

      Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

      #IT #SysAdmin

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      #33

      @stefano I would have asked €400 then.

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      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @zleap people think they can replace competence and experience with AI, without knowing what they're doing. This way, they're causing a lot of damage, because the AI will always have an apparently perfect solution. Apparently is the key, here.

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        #34

        @stefano @zleap I saw somebody say that people love using AI to do other people's jobs, but aren't happy when other people use them to do their jobs. When you don't know what you're doing, you don't notice how poor a job the AI is doing.

        It's basically the same phenomenon as Gell-Mann Amnesia now that I think about it.

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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

          Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

          I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

          So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

          Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

          #IT #SysAdmin

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          #35
          @stefano new product idea: Stef-AI-no Bot.

          For when your clients want AI but also want Stefano
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          • oxy@social.bsdlab.auO oxy@social.bsdlab.au
            @stefano new product idea: Stef-AI-no Bot.

            For when your clients want AI but also want Stefano
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            #36
            @stefano written in BASH
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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

              Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

              I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

              So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

              Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

              #IT #SysAdmin

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              #37

              @stefano it's a sad trend that companies believe a LLM is a consultant in a box 😞

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              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                #IT #SysAdmin

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                #38

                @stefano
                "Sure, I'd like to help. But see, the thing is, I need to improve me cashflow meself"

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                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                  Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                  I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                  So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                  Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                  #IT #SysAdmin

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                  #39

                  @stefano *coughs* retroactively *coughs*

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                  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                    A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                    Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                    I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                    So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                    Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                    #IT #SysAdmin

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                    #40

                    @stefano I'm sorry about your shitty client.

                    Years ago I did consulting for a large financial client (who were in a legal bind) and it leaked publicly that they were going to ask all their freelancers to significantly reduce their rates. So, doing the same work, but for less.

                    So many went along with the request. It blows my mind how willing we are to accommodate capitalism.

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                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                      Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                      I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                      So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                      Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                      #IT #SysAdmin

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                      #41

                      @stefano Did they understand the error in their ways or were they too deep in the AI psychosis?

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                      • oxy@social.bsdlab.auO oxy@social.bsdlab.au
                        @stefano @energisch_ always has been
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                        #42

                        @oxy @stefano @energisch_

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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                          Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                          I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                          So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                          Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                          #IT #SysAdmin

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                          #43

                          @stefano triple the rate

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                          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                            Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                            I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                            So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                            Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                            #IT #SysAdmin

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                            #44

                            @stefano Precious.

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                            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                              Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                              I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                              So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                              Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                              #IT #SysAdmin

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                              #45

                              @stefano there is no way back, you either swim with the sharks, or are out of the door. Here in the Fediverse you might be the "No AI" hero for a day, but many other #SysAdmin have no problem working with AI

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                              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                                Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                                I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                                So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                                Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                                #IT #SysAdmin

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                                #46

                                @stefano "I can help you tomorrow: for now, you have run out of token credits on your reduced-price subscription to my brain"

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                                • grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.socialG grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.social

                                  @stefano there is no way back, you either swim with the sharks, or are out of the door. Here in the Fediverse you might be the "No AI" hero for a day, but many other #SysAdmin have no problem working with AI

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                                  #47

                                  @GrundeinkommenAberRichtig

                                  Yes, yes "resistance is futile". (Yawn)

                                  @stefano

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                                  • grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.socialG grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.social

                                    @stefano there is no way back, you either swim with the sharks, or are out of the door. Here in the Fediverse you might be the "No AI" hero for a day, but many other #SysAdmin have no problem working with AI

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                                    #48

                                    @GrundeinkommenAberRichtig @stefano

                                    Guess, you did not get the point... 🤔

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                                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                                      Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                                      I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                                      So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                                      Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                                      #IT #SysAdmin

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                                      #49

                                      @stefano

                                      The *headdesk* is real..!

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                                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                                        Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                                        I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                                        So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                                        Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                                        #IT #SysAdmin

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                                        #50

                                        @stefano "consulting on Al is not part of our current agreement"

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                                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          A few months ago, a client asked me to shave about €200 a month off our agreement. "We’re trying to cut back on expenses", he said, "to boost our cash flow." I was hesitant, but hey, I agreed.

                                          Fast forward to this morning: one of his team members calls me asking for help because - and I quote - "both Claude and ChatGPT are giving me answers that just don't feel right."

                                          I asked for a little context, only to find out they had upgraded to the top-tier plans for both AIs so they could "solve problems on their own without bothering me."

                                          So, I dropped my client a line: we either revert to our original agreement, or we wrap up this collaboration effective immediately.

                                          Asking me for a discount just to throw far more money at AI subscriptions - only to call me anyway when the bots fail - is, to say the least, a slap (or slop?) in the face.

                                          #IT #SysAdmin

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                                          #51

                                          @stefano original agreement, minus a few things in your favour. Work out a few benefits

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