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🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM.

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  • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

    @Tutanota @GrapheneOS The very same term "side loading" makes me mad, it's just loading what you want on an OS you've paid for

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    #15

    @retrocomputing @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
    Yeah, it used to be called, "installing a software"... 😄

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      @retrocomputing @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
      Yeah, it used to be called, "installing a software"... 😄

      mcslibinas@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #16

      @markku @retrocomputing @Tutanota @GrapheneOS also "third party apps". "SD card usage restricted to third party apps". No, evilgoogle, it's not a third party app, it's my file browser in my own SD card where evilandroid made bloatware folders.

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      • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

        @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

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        #17

        @madduci@mastodon.social
        Two years ago, I got myself a used Pixel 7A for around 160€.
        Still works perfectly fine with GrapheneOS.

        @Tutanota @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social

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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

          This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
          https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

          Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

          This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

          #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

          It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

          More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

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          #18

          @Tutanota @GrapheneOS would be nice if you pushed actually cool well supported distributions like @LineageOS instead

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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

            This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
            https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

            Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

            This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

            #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

            It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

            More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

            the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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            the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com
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            #19

            @Tutanota

            AOSP is just AP.
            If one must ask Google to send them the source code then there's nothing open-source about it.

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            • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

              @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

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              #20

              @madduci @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I've bought Pixel 8a last year for around 300e and it works great. I think they will support 8a until 2030, you can check on their website until when they plan to support certain devices.

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              • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                @Tutanota @GrapheneOS the only problem is that as of now GrapheneOS is only compatible with Pixel phones.
                From next year it will be compatible also with some select Motorola phones, not clear for now when and which ones.
                Short-term solution will be moving to some other Android-ish flavor (HyperOS, ColorOS, ...).
                Switching to iOS won't fix anything, as it's already where Google is going
                We definitely need a 3td alternative, soon.

                the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #21

                @retrocomputing

                Well, we do have some "3rd alternatives" such as Ubuntu Touch (shipped with Volla Phones) or Sailfish OS (shipped with Jolla Phone)

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                  This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                  https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                  Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                  This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                  #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                  It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                  More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

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                  guru435@mastodon.social
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                  #22

                  https://urlgo.in/fnciz

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                  • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                    @Goodlucksil @Tutanota @GrapheneOS My understanding is that GrapheneOS' compatibility limits are set by the hardware, or lack thereof, not by some policies or intent.
                    Can you name a phone OS alternative that can be used right now for your everyday phone?

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                    #23

                    @retrocomputing @Goodlucksil @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
                    Along with around 100,000 others, I use the deGoogled Android /e/OS. Sent from my new Murena Gigaset GS6.
                    https://e.foundation/e-os/

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                    • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                      @retrocomputing

                      Well, we do have some "3rd alternatives" such as Ubuntu Touch (shipped with Volla Phones) or Sailfish OS (shipped with Jolla Phone)

                      retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #24

                      @The_Universality Indeed, still a very short list of compatible phones unfortunately.
                      To make a difference we need broad compatibility, enabling phones with low price tags,.
                      Android and iOS set the bar quite high, people expect lots of features to just considering changing something that "just works" for them, not to mention the price point.
                      Also most people aren't technically savvy, so don't understand - hell, even care about - the privacy implications of their choices.
                      But I'm digressing..

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                      • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                        @The_Universality Indeed, still a very short list of compatible phones unfortunately.
                        To make a difference we need broad compatibility, enabling phones with low price tags,.
                        Android and iOS set the bar quite high, people expect lots of features to just considering changing something that "just works" for them, not to mention the price point.
                        Also most people aren't technically savvy, so don't understand - hell, even care about - the privacy implications of their choices.
                        But I'm digressing..

                        the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com
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                        #25

                        @retrocomputing Indeed. Those have a long way to go.

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