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  • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

    I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

    Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

    It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

    janhelms@rheinneckar.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #27

    @vicgrinberg I hate the empty faces around me whenever I say LaTeX. While they play around with Canva and Word, I use InkScape and LaTeX. And don't get me started on social media: I say Mastodon and get looked at as if I had an illness. To cut it short: Be happy about LaTeX errors, at least you have some healthy nerdy people around you.

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    • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

      @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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      #28

      @mxk @vicgrinberg Teaching singers to sightread can have similar consequences.

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      • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

        @sci_photos because it takes time and brain power (and I'm in constant lack of both, with too many things to do) & feels also useless correcting something if the other does not care and keeps doing it.

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        #29

        @vicgrinberg Yes, I feel that; but reading poorly formatted math takes sooo much brain power, too

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        • janhelms@rheinneckar.socialJ janhelms@rheinneckar.social

          @vicgrinberg I hate the empty faces around me whenever I say LaTeX. While they play around with Canva and Word, I use InkScape and LaTeX. And don't get me started on social media: I say Mastodon and get looked at as if I had an illness. To cut it short: Be happy about LaTeX errors, at least you have some healthy nerdy people around you.

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          #30

          @janhelms well, it's not about being (healthy) nerdy - in my research field it's a requirement, all big astrophysics journals require the paper submissions to be in LaTeX, using their respective style files. So very different context.

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          • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

            I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

            Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

            It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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            #31

            @vicgrinberg 😂 relatable but never a problem I had because before I was a grad student my wife and I met while working for a book typesetting company the used TeX/LaTeX.

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            • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

              I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

              Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

              It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

              dacmot@sunny.gardenD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #32

              This post and comments thread are just 👌

              Thanks @vicgrinberg and all who contributed. You made my day.

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              • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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                #33

                @mxk …and those around them who have not yet learned typography shall be made to suffer also, via commentary from the former @vicgrinberg

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                • klara@drupal.communityK klara@drupal.community

                  @rstub @mxk @vicgrinberg there will come a day where we just mention the number and start laughing 😄

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                  #34

                  @Klara @rstub @mxk @vicgrinberg 33 😂

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                  • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                    I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                    Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                    It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                    #35

                    @vicgrinberg

                    would it be better if your students used Word for their papers?

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                    • echopapa@social.tchncs.deE echopapa@social.tchncs.de

                      @vicgrinberg

                      would it be better if your students used Word for their papers?

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                      #36

                      @echopapa they could not - in my field, astrophysics, all the journals require paper submissions to be in LaTeX, using their respective style files.

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                      • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                        I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                        Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                        It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                        ginoputrino@mastodon.social
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                        #37

                        @vicgrinberg You need to stop. If you do it for them, they won't learn.

                        Ditto marking up word documents for papers - students just hit that "accept changes" button and learn nothing.

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                        • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                          @baszoetekouw @knud pssst, nobody admits to this loudly...

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                          #38

                          @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw

                          Oh, I've never done that. But I use \-

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                          • G ginoputrino@mastodon.social

                            @vicgrinberg You need to stop. If you do it for them, they won't learn.

                            Ditto marking up word documents for papers - students just hit that "accept changes" button and learn nothing.

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                            #39

                            @ginoputrino *sigh* I love it when ppl tell me what to do... Believe me, if it's my students I'll also have a discussion with them. And you have zero idea of how or who I am as an advisor.

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                            • dacmot@sunny.gardenD dacmot@sunny.garden

                              This post and comments thread are just 👌

                              Thanks @vicgrinberg and all who contributed. You made my day.

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                              #40

                              @dacmot haha, glad you enjoyed! I'm definitely having fun (mostly) 😂

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                              • sci_photos@troet.cafeS sci_photos@troet.cafe

                                @vicgrinberg Yes, I feel that; but reading poorly formatted math takes sooo much brain power, too

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                                #41

                                @sci_photos haha, true 😅 but only because I was taught what the properly formatted maths looks like. Oh, the lost bliss of ignorance!

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                                • ellane@pkm.socialE ellane@pkm.social

                                  @mxk …and those around them who have not yet learned typography shall be made to suffer also, via commentary from the former @vicgrinberg

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                                  #42

                                  @ellane @mxk well played 🤣👏

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                                  • klara@drupal.communityK klara@drupal.community

                                    @mxk @vicgrinberg knowing kerning can be hard on the senses

                                    #typography

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                                    #43

                                    @Klara @mxk @vicgrinberg *keming

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                                    • space_flounder@hachyderm.ioS space_flounder@hachyderm.io

                                      @Klara @mxk @vicgrinberg *keming

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                                      #44

                                      @space_flounder @Klara @mxk 😱😱😱

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                                      • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                                        @sci_photos haha, true 😅 but only because I was taught what the properly formatted maths looks like. Oh, the lost bliss of ignorance!

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                                        #45

                                        @vicgrinberg @sci_photos
                                        Typographic quality is on a downward trend everywhere and I think it is sad and a terrible cultural loss. 😞

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                                        • echopapa@social.tchncs.deE echopapa@social.tchncs.de

                                          @vicgrinberg

                                          would it be better if your students used Word for their papers?

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                                          #46

                                          @echopapa@social.tchncs.de @vicgrinberg@mastodon.social The only way Microsoft Word could make anything better is by imagining your work done in Microsoft Word. Suddenly your biggest problems with your current programs aren’t quite so big.

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