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  3. I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins.

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  • hmwilker@social.tchncs.deH hmwilker@social.tchncs.de

    @vicgrinberg I seem to have a limit for the frequency of this kind of error above which I cannot take in the content anymore. I only see the errors after that.

    vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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    #19

    @hmwilker ahah, yes 😭 Or at least I get really pissy in my comments - and I have a few collaborators who are really terrible and don't even try 😭

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    • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

      I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

      Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

      It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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      shadsterling@mastodon.social
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      #20

      @vicgrinberg we have linting / style guide enforcement tools for programming languages, do we have similar tools for TeX?

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      • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

        @vicgrinberg we have linting / style guide enforcement tools for programming languages, do we have similar tools for TeX?

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        #21

        @ShadSterling I don't think this would work with a technical solution since this is context dependent on what the text actually days. And there already are rules...

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        • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

          I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

          Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

          It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

          sci_photos@troet.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
          sci_photos@troet.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #22

          @vicgrinberg Why stopping?

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          • sci_photos@troet.cafeS sci_photos@troet.cafe

            @vicgrinberg Why stopping?

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            #23

            @sci_photos because it takes time and brain power (and I'm in constant lack of both, with too many things to do) & feels also useless correcting something if the other does not care and keeps doing it.

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            • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

              @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

              rk@mastodon.well.comR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #24

              @mxk @vicgrinberg

              Bad keming is a curse

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              • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

                ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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                ricci@discuss.systems
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                #25

                @vicgrinberg my t shirt is raising questions already answered by my t shirt

                https://discuss.systems/@ricci/110905390639969469

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                • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                  @vicgrinberg my t shirt is raising questions already answered by my t shirt

                  https://discuss.systems/@ricci/110905390639969469

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                  #26

                  @ricci ahaha, absolutely love this!

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                  • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                    I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                    Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                    It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

                    janhelms@rheinneckar.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    janhelms@rheinneckar.social
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                    #27

                    @vicgrinberg I hate the empty faces around me whenever I say LaTeX. While they play around with Canva and Word, I use InkScape and LaTeX. And don't get me started on social media: I say Mastodon and get looked at as if I had an illness. To cut it short: Be happy about LaTeX errors, at least you have some healthy nerdy people around you.

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                    • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                      @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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                      #28

                      @mxk @vicgrinberg Teaching singers to sightread can have similar consequences.

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                      • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                        @sci_photos because it takes time and brain power (and I'm in constant lack of both, with too many things to do) & feels also useless correcting something if the other does not care and keeps doing it.

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                        #29

                        @vicgrinberg Yes, I feel that; but reading poorly formatted math takes sooo much brain power, too

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                        • janhelms@rheinneckar.socialJ janhelms@rheinneckar.social

                          @vicgrinberg I hate the empty faces around me whenever I say LaTeX. While they play around with Canva and Word, I use InkScape and LaTeX. And don't get me started on social media: I say Mastodon and get looked at as if I had an illness. To cut it short: Be happy about LaTeX errors, at least you have some healthy nerdy people around you.

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                          vicgrinberg@mastodon.social
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                          #30

                          @janhelms well, it's not about being (healthy) nerdy - in my research field it's a requirement, all big astrophysics journals require the paper submissions to be in LaTeX, using their respective style files. So very different context.

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                          • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                            I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                            Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                            It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                            #31

                            @vicgrinberg 😂 relatable but never a problem I had because before I was a grad student my wife and I met while working for a book typesetting company the used TeX/LaTeX.

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                            • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                              I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                              Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                              It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                              dacmot@sunny.garden
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                              #32

                              This post and comments thread are just 👌

                              Thanks @vicgrinberg and all who contributed. You made my day.

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                              • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                                @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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                                ellane@pkm.social
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                                #33

                                @mxk …and those around them who have not yet learned typography shall be made to suffer also, via commentary from the former @vicgrinberg

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                                • klara@drupal.communityK klara@drupal.community

                                  @rstub @mxk @vicgrinberg there will come a day where we just mention the number and start laughing 😄

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                                  #34

                                  @Klara @rstub @mxk @vicgrinberg 33 😂

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                                  • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                                    I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                                    Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                                    It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                                    #35

                                    @vicgrinberg

                                    would it be better if your students used Word for their papers?

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                                    • echopapa@social.tchncs.deE echopapa@social.tchncs.de

                                      @vicgrinberg

                                      would it be better if your students used Word for their papers?

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                                      #36

                                      @echopapa they could not - in my field, astrophysics, all the journals require paper submissions to be in LaTeX, using their respective style files.

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                                      • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                                        I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                                        Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                                        It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                                        ginoputrino@mastodon.social
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                                        #37

                                        @vicgrinberg You need to stop. If you do it for them, they won't learn.

                                        Ditto marking up word documents for papers - students just hit that "accept changes" button and learn nothing.

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                                        • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                                          @baszoetekouw @knud pssst, nobody admits to this loudly...

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                                          #38

                                          @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw

                                          Oh, I've never done that. But I use \-

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