I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins.
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@vicgrinberg my t shirt is raising questions already answered by my t shirt
@ricci ahaha, absolutely love this!
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I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
@vicgrinberg I hate the empty faces around me whenever I say LaTeX. While they play around with Canva and Word, I use InkScape and LaTeX. And don't get me started on social media: I say Mastodon and get looked at as if I had an illness. To cut it short: Be happy about LaTeX errors, at least you have some healthy nerdy people around you.
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@vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life
@mxk @vicgrinberg Teaching singers to sightread can have similar consequences.
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@sci_photos because it takes time and brain power (and I'm in constant lack of both, with too many things to do) & feels also useless correcting something if the other does not care and keeps doing it.
@vicgrinberg Yes, I feel that; but reading poorly formatted math takes sooo much brain power, too
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@vicgrinberg I hate the empty faces around me whenever I say LaTeX. While they play around with Canva and Word, I use InkScape and LaTeX. And don't get me started on social media: I say Mastodon and get looked at as if I had an illness. To cut it short: Be happy about LaTeX errors, at least you have some healthy nerdy people around you.
@janhelms well, it's not about being (healthy) nerdy - in my research field it's a requirement, all big astrophysics journals require the paper submissions to be in LaTeX, using their respective style files. So very different context.
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I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
@vicgrinberg
relatable but never a problem I had because before I was a grad student my wife and I met while working for a book typesetting company the used TeX/LaTeX. -
I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
This post and comments thread are just
Thanks @vicgrinberg and all who contributed. You made my day.
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@vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life
@mxk …and those around them who have not yet learned typography shall be made to suffer also, via commentary from the former @vicgrinberg
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@rstub @mxk @vicgrinberg there will come a day where we just mention the number and start laughing
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I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
would it be better if your students used Word for their papers?
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would it be better if your students used Word for their papers?
@echopapa they could not - in my field, astrophysics, all the journals require paper submissions to be in LaTeX, using their respective style files.
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I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
@vicgrinberg You need to stop. If you do it for them, they won't learn.
Ditto marking up word documents for papers - students just hit that "accept changes" button and learn nothing.
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@baszoetekouw @knud pssst, nobody admits to this loudly...
Oh, I've never done that. But I use \-
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@vicgrinberg You need to stop. If you do it for them, they won't learn.
Ditto marking up word documents for papers - students just hit that "accept changes" button and learn nothing.
@ginoputrino *sigh* I love it when ppl tell me what to do... Believe me, if it's my students I'll also have a discussion with them. And you have zero idea of how or who I am as an advisor.
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This post and comments thread are just
Thanks @vicgrinberg and all who contributed. You made my day.
@dacmot haha, glad you enjoyed! I'm definitely having fun (mostly)
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@vicgrinberg Yes, I feel that; but reading poorly formatted math takes sooo much brain power, too
@sci_photos haha, true
but only because I was taught what the properly formatted maths looks like. Oh, the lost bliss of ignorance! -
@mxk …and those around them who have not yet learned typography shall be made to suffer also, via commentary from the former @vicgrinberg
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@mxk @vicgrinberg knowing kerning can be hard on the senses
@Klara @mxk @vicgrinberg *keming
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@sci_photos haha, true
but only because I was taught what the properly formatted maths looks like. Oh, the lost bliss of ignorance!@vicgrinberg @sci_photos
Typographic quality is on a downward trend everywhere and I think it is sad and a terrible cultural loss.
