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  3. I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins.

I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins.

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  • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

    @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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    #24

    @mxk @vicgrinberg

    Bad keming is a curse

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    • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

      I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

      Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

      It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

      ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #25

      @vicgrinberg my t shirt is raising questions already answered by my t shirt

      https://discuss.systems/@ricci/110905390639969469

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      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

        @vicgrinberg my t shirt is raising questions already answered by my t shirt

        https://discuss.systems/@ricci/110905390639969469

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        #26

        @ricci ahaha, absolutely love this!

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        • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

          I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

          Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

          It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

          janhelms@rheinneckar.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #27

          @vicgrinberg I hate the empty faces around me whenever I say LaTeX. While they play around with Canva and Word, I use InkScape and LaTeX. And don't get me started on social media: I say Mastodon and get looked at as if I had an illness. To cut it short: Be happy about LaTeX errors, at least you have some healthy nerdy people around you.

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          • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

            @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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            #28

            @mxk @vicgrinberg Teaching singers to sightread can have similar consequences.

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            • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

              @sci_photos because it takes time and brain power (and I'm in constant lack of both, with too many things to do) & feels also useless correcting something if the other does not care and keeps doing it.

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              #29

              @vicgrinberg Yes, I feel that; but reading poorly formatted math takes sooo much brain power, too

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              • janhelms@rheinneckar.socialJ janhelms@rheinneckar.social

                @vicgrinberg I hate the empty faces around me whenever I say LaTeX. While they play around with Canva and Word, I use InkScape and LaTeX. And don't get me started on social media: I say Mastodon and get looked at as if I had an illness. To cut it short: Be happy about LaTeX errors, at least you have some healthy nerdy people around you.

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                #30

                @janhelms well, it's not about being (healthy) nerdy - in my research field it's a requirement, all big astrophysics journals require the paper submissions to be in LaTeX, using their respective style files. So very different context.

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                • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                  I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                  Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                  It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                  #31

                  @vicgrinberg 😂 relatable but never a problem I had because before I was a grad student my wife and I met while working for a book typesetting company the used TeX/LaTeX.

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                  • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                    I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                    Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                    It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

                    dacmot@sunny.gardenD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #32

                    This post and comments thread are just 👌

                    Thanks @vicgrinberg and all who contributed. You made my day.

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                    • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                      @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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                      #33

                      @mxk …and those around them who have not yet learned typography shall be made to suffer also, via commentary from the former @vicgrinberg

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                      • klara@drupal.communityK klara@drupal.community

                        @rstub @mxk @vicgrinberg there will come a day where we just mention the number and start laughing 😄

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                        #34

                        @Klara @rstub @mxk @vicgrinberg 33 😂

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                        • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                          I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                          Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                          It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                          #35

                          @vicgrinberg

                          would it be better if your students used Word for their papers?

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                          • echopapa@social.tchncs.deE echopapa@social.tchncs.de

                            @vicgrinberg

                            would it be better if your students used Word for their papers?

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                            #36

                            @echopapa they could not - in my field, astrophysics, all the journals require paper submissions to be in LaTeX, using their respective style files.

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                            • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                              I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                              Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                              It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                              ginoputrino@mastodon.social
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                              #37

                              @vicgrinberg You need to stop. If you do it for them, they won't learn.

                              Ditto marking up word documents for papers - students just hit that "accept changes" button and learn nothing.

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                              • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                                @baszoetekouw @knud pssst, nobody admits to this loudly...

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                                #38

                                @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw

                                Oh, I've never done that. But I use \-

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                                • G ginoputrino@mastodon.social

                                  @vicgrinberg You need to stop. If you do it for them, they won't learn.

                                  Ditto marking up word documents for papers - students just hit that "accept changes" button and learn nothing.

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                                  #39

                                  @ginoputrino *sigh* I love it when ppl tell me what to do... Believe me, if it's my students I'll also have a discussion with them. And you have zero idea of how or who I am as an advisor.

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                                  • dacmot@sunny.gardenD dacmot@sunny.garden

                                    This post and comments thread are just 👌

                                    Thanks @vicgrinberg and all who contributed. You made my day.

                                    vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #40

                                    @dacmot haha, glad you enjoyed! I'm definitely having fun (mostly) 😂

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                                    • sci_photos@troet.cafeS sci_photos@troet.cafe

                                      @vicgrinberg Yes, I feel that; but reading poorly formatted math takes sooo much brain power, too

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                                      #41

                                      @sci_photos haha, true 😅 but only because I was taught what the properly formatted maths looks like. Oh, the lost bliss of ignorance!

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                                      • ellane@pkm.socialE ellane@pkm.social

                                        @mxk …and those around them who have not yet learned typography shall be made to suffer also, via commentary from the former @vicgrinberg

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                                        #42

                                        @ellane @mxk well played 🤣👏

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                                        • klara@drupal.communityK klara@drupal.community

                                          @mxk @vicgrinberg knowing kerning can be hard on the senses

                                          #typography

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                                          #43

                                          @Klara @mxk @vicgrinberg *keming

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