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  3. So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

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  • quasit@social.vivaldi.netQ quasit@social.vivaldi.net

    @Remittancegirl
    It's anything BUT a revolution. "No Kings" is financed and run by the DNC, who in turn are financed and owned by the oligarchs. The No Kings events are just pressure valves designed to let neoliberals blow off steam and tell themselves that they're making a difference, while in fact all they're doing is supporting the fascist Powers-That-Be.

    That's why they never ask for impeachment. Or an end to the genocide in Gaza. Or the imposition of ANY meaningful taxes on billionaires.

    And the "protests" are always held on Saturdays, just to make 100% sure that they won't turn into anything like a general strike.

    The Democratic Party is the second string team for fascism. And BOTH parties are owned by the same Nazi billionaires.

    #GeneralStrike

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    #114

    @Quasit @Remittancegirl The DNC is in debt while the RNC is swimming in money. The Democrats impeached Trump twice in his first term, and they're currently in the minority in Congress. There's a wealth tax on the ballot in California. Abdul El-Sayed won the Democratic primary for Senate in Michigan. Democrats and the DNC aren't perfect, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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    • C cj@dragonscave.space

      @Quasit @Remittancegirl The DNC is in debt while the RNC is swimming in money. The Democrats impeached Trump twice in his first term, and they're currently in the minority in Congress. There's a wealth tax on the ballot in California. Abdul El-Sayed won the Democratic primary for Senate in Michigan. Democrats and the DNC aren't perfect, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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      #115

      @cj Well said. At this point, you can't afford to. @Quasit

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      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

        So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

        So... here's the thing:

        DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

        The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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        #116

        @Remittancegirl
        Tne ultimate tip: if you plan to be free, use free tools. Free as in freedom, not free of charge. That's the point.

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        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

          So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

          So... here's the thing:

          DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

          The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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          cj@dragonscave.space
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          #117

          @Remittancegirl @prism Isn't this blaming the victim? I don't think we should loose sight here that the villain is Meta and the corrupt administration that they're in bed with.

          What is the alternative? What platform has the same reach as those run by Big Tech?

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          • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

            So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

            So... here's the thing:

            DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

            The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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            padinero@social.vivaldi.net
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            #118

            @Remittancegirl

            So... here's the thing:

            THEY WERE USING INSTAGRAM TO PROMOTE THEIR EVENT. IF THEY ONLY WANTED 5 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP, THEY COULD HAVE USED MASTODON.

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            • P padinero@social.vivaldi.net

              @Remittancegirl

              So... here's the thing:

              THEY WERE USING INSTAGRAM TO PROMOTE THEIR EVENT. IF THEY ONLY WANTED 5 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP, THEY COULD HAVE USED MASTODON.

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              #119

              @padinero Here's the thing:

              If they depend on a platform owned by someone who has a specific interest in hindering their organization, then people will get confused and stay at home.

              The solution is to train people into using alternative forms of communication. And the actual act of training people to on teach using mastodon, will, in itself create a community of trust.

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              • violettejean@mstdn.socialV violettejean@mstdn.social

                @Remittancegirl

                And the alternatives sites are?

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                #120

                A website like https://www.nokings.org/ @violettejean @Remittancegirl

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                • quasit@social.vivaldi.netQ quasit@social.vivaldi.net

                  @Remittancegirl
                  It's anything BUT a revolution. "No Kings" is financed and run by the DNC, who in turn are financed and owned by the oligarchs. The No Kings events are just pressure valves designed to let neoliberals blow off steam and tell themselves that they're making a difference, while in fact all they're doing is supporting the fascist Powers-That-Be.

                  That's why they never ask for impeachment. Or an end to the genocide in Gaza. Or the imposition of ANY meaningful taxes on billionaires.

                  And the "protests" are always held on Saturdays, just to make 100% sure that they won't turn into anything like a general strike.

                  The Democratic Party is the second string team for fascism. And BOTH parties are owned by the same Nazi billionaires.

                  #GeneralStrike

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                  #121

                  @Quasit @Remittancegirl This is not true. Ezra for example is part of Indivisible, which is trying and to some extent succeeding at creating a solidarity organization that is explicitly not part of the Democratic Party apparatus. Their funding comes from people like me. I stopped sending the Democratic Party money about twenty years ago, and I'm embarrassed that it took that long, but even I eventually figure things out if you hit me with a clue-by-four often enough.

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                  • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

                    @Remittancegirl @tantramar

                    dopamine addicted.
                    That's by design.
                    They've hacked our neurotransmitters. They've hacked our brains. It's a construct. It's a manipulation. People can unplug.

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                    david_crispin@mstdn.ca
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                    #122
                    @FranceskaMann@freeradical.zone @Remittancegirl@mstdn.social @tantramar@zeroes.ca "COVID kills joy in people; scientists have discovered a new long-term consequence—the virus literally burns out dopamine receptors. It affects the part of the brain responsible for motivation, happiness, and memory, and the sicker a person is, the worse the consequences." https://social.marxist.network/@yogthos/117445661898744984
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                    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                      @padinero Here's the thing:

                      If they depend on a platform owned by someone who has a specific interest in hindering their organization, then people will get confused and stay at home.

                      The solution is to train people into using alternative forms of communication. And the actual act of training people to on teach using mastodon, will, in itself create a community of trust.

                      ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #123

                      @Remittancegirl
                      > into using alternative forms of communication

                      But how can we manage to get to those young people they should reach their grandparents and ask them for the forgotten knowledge of prehistorical technology called e-mail.

                      Me thinks the client for this still are on the phones, just buried deep. I know, it is very demanding to learn how to use email client, but it is only about the last thing that can be silenced by the #technazi bros – as long as the mail address ends in .eu .de .pl .no or .ch

                      Proton even is giving special e-mail accounts for organizing:

                      https://proton.me/mail

                      @padinero
                      @protonprivacy

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                      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                        So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                        So... here's the thing:

                        DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                        The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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                        #124

                        @Remittancegirl The infuriatingly frustrating thing to me is that people don't understand the nature of timing.

                        All these morons going to BlueSky and similar don't "get" that the trap is to make it feel functional enough ... and then they shut the jaws of the trap just before elections to maximize the impact and leave the victims with too little time to recover.

                        FWIW, No Kings/Indivisible are also here on Mastodon. So they're doing better than most. But their followers elsewhere? No excuse.

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                        • simonbp@social.linux.pizzaS simonbp@social.linux.pizza

                          @Remittancegirl On efficacy, I'm not quite sure what they have achieved other than being a social club for people who were going to vote a particular way anyway.

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                          #125

                          @simonbp @Remittancegirl Having participated in numerous No Kings protests, they do lots of organizing at the protests for additional and more direct actions. Voter registration, canvassing, call campaigns, stuff like that.

                          I haven't noticed any direct fundraising, but I figure they don't want to deal with the legal hoops revolving around that.

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                          • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                            So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                            So... here's the thing:

                            DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                            The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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                            #126

                            @Remittancegirl OMG!! YES! THIS POST!!

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                            • isaackuo@spacey.spaceI isaackuo@spacey.space

                              @Remittancegirl The infuriatingly frustrating thing to me is that people don't understand the nature of timing.

                              All these morons going to BlueSky and similar don't "get" that the trap is to make it feel functional enough ... and then they shut the jaws of the trap just before elections to maximize the impact and leave the victims with too little time to recover.

                              FWIW, No Kings/Indivisible are also here on Mastodon. So they're doing better than most. But their followers elsewhere? No excuse.

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                              #127

                              @Remittancegirl @isaackuo

                              National Indivisible is here. Local Indivisible's are pretty rare here. My local had not heard of mastodon. I suggested that they organize here. Not enough reach they say. I don't want to download another app they say. Don't make me learn something new they say. It's too complicated they say. Blah blah blah.

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                              • tasket@mas.toT tasket@mas.to

                                @roblosricos OK, but what about their followers who made themselves reachable only via oligarch media?

                                IMO, movements like #nokings should have been dropping hints to their supporters that they need to focus their attention on better platforms.

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                                #128

                                @tasket @roblosricos
                                Sadly, that would just get them cancelled faster.

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                                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                  So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                  So... here's the thing:

                                  DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                  The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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                                  paneerakbari@mas.to
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                                  #129

                                  @Remittancegirl Meta/IG's action against the pro-democracy organizers is the actual biased-media suppression alleged by right-wingers. The difference is that this time it actually happened.
                                  Sadly, but hopefully, this incident was necessary to demonstrate proof: of the danger, as well as Meta's intentions.
                                  No Kings was organizing on IG because IG is where the people are. There is now clear evidence that it is time for the people to change that fact.
                                  That was a tactic even Trump's people managed to figure out: when Meta booted him, he had Truth Social spun up on Mastodon's codebase

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                                  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                    So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                    So... here's the thing:

                                    DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                    The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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                                    #130

                                    @Remittancegirl

                                    The myths that you have to be on the platform because everyone else is there and they won’t go elsewhere is bullshit.

                                    Ask MySpace.

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                                    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                      So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                      So... here's the thing:

                                      DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                      The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

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                                      epicdemiologist@wandering.shop
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                                      #131

                                      @Remittancegirl "RSVP for the protest" set off my alarms from the beginning. Never have, never will.

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                                      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                        @kelleynnn I'm not in the US. I'm not American.

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                                        #132

                                        @Remittancegirl 👍

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                                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                          So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                          So... here's the thing:

                                          DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                          The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                                          gwaldby@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          gwaldby@mastodon.social
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                                          #133

                                          @Remittancegirl Written before the Saturday rallies

                                          No Kings. No Demands. What Happened?
                                          https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/no-kings.-no-demands.-what-happened

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