RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876
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RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876
Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”
A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.
Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.
And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw
#UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia
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RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876
Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”
A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.
Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.
And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw
#UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia
@jonah VPN ban -> Ah, people can install WireGuard on a Hetzner droplet -> mandatory age verification for web hosting, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
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RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876
Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”
A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.
Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.
And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw
#UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia
@jonah doesn't say anything about SOCKS proxying over a dynamic SSH tunnel though
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@jonah doesn't say anything about SOCKS proxying over a dynamic SSH tunnel though
@paul nice you found the loophole, us tech guys always win after all
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@jonah VPN ban -> Ah, people can install WireGuard on a Hetzner droplet -> mandatory age verification for web hosting, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
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@jonah VPN ban -> Ah, people can install WireGuard on a Hetzner droplet -> mandatory age verification for web hosting, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
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@jonah doesn't say anything about SOCKS proxying over a dynamic SSH tunnel though
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RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876
Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”
A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.
Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.
And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw
#UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia
UK users complaining about vpn blocks.
That is The dream of Keir Srtalin Starmer and Shabhana Mahmood who dreams about total surveillance and knowing the thoughts of every citizen better than the person themselves.
Friends of israel Financed, genocide supporting Repressive Labour must go.
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@Greylinux @jonah technically... Yes. Although it is a bit more technical to set up than a VPN server.
It should work for a Jellyfin server as is, but sometimes I find doing a more specific remote tunnel is better for this (and a lot better if the client does not have proxy settings) -
@Greylinux @jonah technically... Yes. Although it is a bit more technical to set up than a VPN server.
It should work for a Jellyfin server as is, but sometimes I find doing a more specific remote tunnel is better for this (and a lot better if the client does not have proxy settings) -
RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876
Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”
A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.
Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.
And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw
#UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia
@jonah Part of the problem is not having the Second Amendment to make the government think twice about rounding people up for "porn violations" by VPN.
Here most of the South has age verification laws and is thus blocked, but VPN bans are going nowhere and no proposal has included individual criminalization to my knowledge.
Also note that Tor is a real bear for ISPs or governments to block. Even China's Great Firewall can only stop some Tor traffic, some of the time.
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@Greylinux @jonah technically... Yes. Although it is a bit more technical to set up than a VPN server.
It should work for a Jellyfin server as is, but sometimes I find doing a more specific remote tunnel is better for this (and a lot better if the client does not have proxy settings)I think Jonah has being sarcastic there. Like, yes, technically you could use a non-VPN VPN, but its still basically a VPN and if VPNs are banned, would probably still be illegal enough if whatever government is in power ever needs a pretext to just grab you.
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I think Jonah has being sarcastic there. Like, yes, technically you could use a non-VPN VPN, but its still basically a VPN and if VPNs are banned, would probably still be illegal enough if whatever government is in power ever needs a pretext to just grab you.
@rastilin @Greylinux @jonah ah, sarcasm, if only I thought of using that...
But yes, you're absolutely right, any government would have absolutely no idea about the difference between a VPN and routing specifix traffic via an alternative path than it would normally go.
And I'll see them in court. -
RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876
Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”
A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.
Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.
And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw
#UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia
@jonah oh are they going to be in for some surprises when they figure out this technology they're trying to govern... .
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@Greylinux @jonah there's probably a nunber of guides out there, but I've just learned things over the years... It's actually how I used to test remote client's internet connections.
Anyway, what you'd do is have a basic, cheap, VPS from any provider and country you desire and set it up for SSH access, and I think it's "AllowTcpForwarding yes" that needs to be set in sshd_config.
Then you'd connect to it with your client machine with the-D $portparameter, i.e.ssh -D 3080 $server
Then in your web browser, you'd set up the proxy settings under SOCKS to your loopback address and the port specified i.e. SOCKS: 127.0.0.1 3080.
And that's it, any traffic from that browser will go through your loopback, to the SSH server, then off to the internet. I believe there's an option of sending DNS requests that way too in the web browser. You do need to leave the SSH session open, for obvious reasons.
Of course, only the traffic from the web browser will use this route, so you'd need to set it up in different applications' proxy config if you want them to use it too.Obviously, care should be taken to secure the ssh endpoint as much as possible, either through blocklistd, fail2ban, etc. or just allowing connections via a specific IP address
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RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876
Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”
A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.
Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.
And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw
#UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia
@jonah we definitely don't have space to lock anyone up on the pretext they might have committed a crime. But I agree with the sentiment.
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@jonah VPN ban -> Ah, people can install WireGuard on a Hetzner droplet -> mandatory age verification for web hosting, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
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@Greylinux @jonah there's probably a nunber of guides out there, but I've just learned things over the years... It's actually how I used to test remote client's internet connections.
Anyway, what you'd do is have a basic, cheap, VPS from any provider and country you desire and set it up for SSH access, and I think it's "AllowTcpForwarding yes" that needs to be set in sshd_config.
Then you'd connect to it with your client machine with the-D $portparameter, i.e.ssh -D 3080 $server
Then in your web browser, you'd set up the proxy settings under SOCKS to your loopback address and the port specified i.e. SOCKS: 127.0.0.1 3080.
And that's it, any traffic from that browser will go through your loopback, to the SSH server, then off to the internet. I believe there's an option of sending DNS requests that way too in the web browser. You do need to leave the SSH session open, for obvious reasons.
Of course, only the traffic from the web browser will use this route, so you'd need to set it up in different applications' proxy config if you want them to use it too.Obviously, care should be taken to secure the ssh endpoint as much as possible, either through blocklistd, fail2ban, etc. or just allowing connections via a specific IP address
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I think Jonah has being sarcastic there. Like, yes, technically you could use a non-VPN VPN, but its still basically a VPN and if VPNs are banned, would probably still be illegal enough if whatever government is in power ever needs a pretext to just grab you.
@rastilin @paul @Greylinux @jonah If this law ever does come in, the law makers will have a lot of fun trying to define what a "VPN" is.
At the basic level, it's just an encrypted network tunnel between two computers. Something that is logically and mathematically impossible to ban.
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@jonah VPN ban -> Ah, people can install WireGuard on a Hetzner droplet -> mandatory age verification for web hosting, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
