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  3. You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon.

You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon.

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  • allysonshaw@wandering.shopA allysonshaw@wandering.shop

    @FediTips Is this across all servers? I don't see this option in my settings. Thanks!

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    #6

    @AllysonShaw

    It should be there on your settings, your server is running the latest version of Mastodon.

    Are you logging in on your server's website? These settings aren't on the apps yet.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

      1. Log into your server's website
      2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
      3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
      4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
      5. Click "Save Changes" button

      The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

      #FediTips #Mastodon

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      #7

      @FediTips

      thanks for work on #mastodon

      but this particular moment doesn't seem well thought.
      people can screenshot post and quote it anyway.
      Meanwhile I see others quoting, while I can't.
      Where is Followers only privacy option for re-tooting ?

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        @enriquericos

        I haven't seen it in action yet but I assume it will appear in notifications the same way boosts currently do?

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        #8

        @FediTips That's how I want it to work 👍

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

          1. Log into your server's website
          2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
          3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
          4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
          5. Click "Save Changes" button

          The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

          #FediTips #Mastodon

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          spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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          #9

          @FediTips

          What is the default?

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

            1. Log into your server's website
            2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
            3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
            4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
            5. Click "Save Changes" button

            The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

            #FediTips #Mastodon

            3tomatoesshort@disabled.social3 This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @FediTips
            Does this depend on your instance having recently updated their software version or something? I can't find this option.

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

              1. Log into your server's website
              2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
              3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
              4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
              5. Click "Save Changes" button

              The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

              #FediTips #Mastodon

              countdracula@mas.toC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @FediTips If the default is "Everyone", I guess I must have changed it for myself to "Only your followers". The option is there in version 4.4.3.

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

                1. Log into your server's website
                2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
                3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
                4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
                5. Click "Save Changes" button

                The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

                #FediTips #Mastodon

                not2b@sfba.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @FediTips Note that anyone can post a link to your toot if your instance doesn't use authorized fetch and it is public, and many Mastodon apps (@phanpy for example) already display them as quote posts. So if you don't want someone to be able to quote a post it really needs to be private.

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

                  1. Log into your server's website
                  2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
                  3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
                  4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
                  5. Click "Save Changes" button

                  The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

                  #FediTips #Mastodon

                  kev@dragonscave.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @FediTips Anyone can still copy/paste the link to your unprotected post and quote that way.

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

                    1. Log into your server's website
                    2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
                    3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
                    4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
                    5. Click "Save Changes" button

                    The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

                    #FediTips #Mastodon

                    dalereardon@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @FediTips And is there a default setting for existing accounts & maybe different for new accounts or each server admin can choose the defaults?

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                    • kev@dragonscave.spaceK kev@dragonscave.space

                      @FediTips Anyone can still copy/paste the link to your unprotected post and quote that way.

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                      #15

                      @kev

                      They can, but this adds friction and also makes clear to others if they don't want to be quoted.

                      At the moment there's nothing to indicate preferences one way or the other.

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                      • dalereardon@mastodon.socialD dalereardon@mastodon.social

                        @FediTips And is there a default setting for existing accounts & maybe different for new accounts or each server admin can choose the defaults?

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                        #16

                        @dalereardon

                        I just checked the admin panel on my own server and there doesn't seem to be any way for the admin to choose the default. (It may be possible if the admin is techy enough to edit their server's files directly, but it's not in the graphical interface at least.)

                        The default setting seems to be "Anyone can quote", which is perhaps not good as it means this is an opt-out feature rather than opt-in. We'll have to see what happens when the actual quoting feature is released.

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                        • 3tomatoesshort@disabled.social3 3tomatoesshort@disabled.social

                          @FediTips
                          Does this depend on your instance having recently updated their software version or something? I can't find this option.

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                          #17

                          @3TomatoesShort

                          Yes, it requires your instance to be running Mastodon version 4.4.0 or higher.

                          Your instance disabled.social is running version 4.3.6 so it doesn't have this yet.

                          You might want to check with your instance admin @McCullohMD if you want to ask about updates.

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            @dalereardon

                            I just checked the admin panel on my own server and there doesn't seem to be any way for the admin to choose the default. (It may be possible if the admin is techy enough to edit their server's files directly, but it's not in the graphical interface at least.)

                            The default setting seems to be "Anyone can quote", which is perhaps not good as it means this is an opt-out feature rather than opt-in. We'll have to see what happens when the actual quoting feature is released.

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                            #18

                            @FediTips Thanks for investigating. Personally I would like to see the server admin in the non tech interface being able to choose the default

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                            • dalereardon@mastodon.socialD dalereardon@mastodon.social

                              @FediTips Thanks for investigating. Personally I would like to see the server admin in the non tech interface being able to choose the default

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                              #19

                              @dalereardon

                              Agreed. It should either be the admin's decision on defaults or else opt-in by default for everyone (i.e. everyone set to "nobody can quote").

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                              • not2b@sfba.socialN not2b@sfba.social

                                @FediTips Note that anyone can post a link to your toot if your instance doesn't use authorized fetch and it is public, and many Mastodon apps (@phanpy for example) already display them as quote posts. So if you don't want someone to be able to quote a post it really needs to be private.

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                                #20

                                @not2b

                                Yeah, it's not foolproof.

                                But it is useful for the friction it causes and also for the signal it sends when people check to see if quoting is possible. At the moment there is no way to know if someone is okay with quoting.

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                                • countdracula@mas.toC countdracula@mas.to

                                  @FediTips If the default is "Everyone", I guess I must have changed it for myself to "Only your followers". The option is there in version 4.4.3.

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                                  #21

                                  @countdracula

                                  As far as I know the default is currently "everyone" but it's possible that a techy admin might change this default by directly editing their server's software (as Mastodon is open source) or config files on their server.

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                                  • S spacelifeform@infosec.exchange

                                    @FediTips

                                    What is the default?

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                                    #22

                                    @SpaceLifeForm

                                    As far as I know the default currently seems to be "Anyone can quote you".

                                    This isn't great, it would make the feature opt-out rather than opt-in. We'll have to see what happens when the feature launches.

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                                    • pepper0@aus.socialP pepper0@aus.social

                                      @FediTips

                                      thanks for work on #mastodon

                                      but this particular moment doesn't seem well thought.
                                      people can screenshot post and quote it anyway.
                                      Meanwhile I see others quoting, while I can't.
                                      Where is Followers only privacy option for re-tooting ?

                                      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #23

                                      @pepper0

                                      If you have a public post, it's always going to be possible for others to screenshot or copy-paste it, yes.

                                      However, setting the quote privacy is still useful because it causes friction for those who defy it (their quote posts look crap) and also because it indicates your preferences to those who respect it. At the moment there is no way to tell if people want to be quoted or not.

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                                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                        You can now set your quote posting privacy preferences on Mastodon. You can allow anyone / just your followers / nobody to quote you:

                                        1. Log into your server's website
                                        2. Click ⚙️ Preferences (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in bottom right and ⚙️ Preferences)
                                        3. Click "Other" (if you're on a phone it's ☰ in top right and "Other")
                                        4. On "Who Can Quote" menu select option you want
                                        5. Click "Save Changes" button

                                        The actual ability to quote post will be in the next Mastodon update.

                                        #FediTips #Mastodon

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                                        #24

                                        p.s. Several people pointing out if you make a public post, people can still screenshot or copy-paste or link to it, no matter what you choose.

                                        However, setting your quote preference is still useful for two reasons:

                                        - It shows your preferences to those who respect them. People who see no quote option after quoting launches will know you don't want to be quoted.

                                        - It adds friction for those who defy your wishes, their quote posts will look crap because they have tried to bypass your wishes.

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                                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                          p.s. Several people pointing out if you make a public post, people can still screenshot or copy-paste or link to it, no matter what you choose.

                                          However, setting your quote preference is still useful for two reasons:

                                          - It shows your preferences to those who respect them. People who see no quote option after quoting launches will know you don't want to be quoted.

                                          - It adds friction for those who defy your wishes, their quote posts will look crap because they have tried to bypass your wishes.

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                                          #25

                                          p.p.s. Okay, more info on quote tooting from one of the Mastodon developers:

                                          - It will ALSO be available on a per-toot basis. So, if you want to allow some toots to be quoted but not others, that will also be possible.

                                          - You can change your setting after publication, and it can retract existing quote toots by other people.

                                          - If someone quotes you it will appear in your notifications column, just like boosts and favourites already do.

                                          More details of all these at https://oisaur.com/@renchap/115068739790243414

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