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  • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

    @barometz
    can you describe more in detail what upsets you about this situation?

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    @pelle this is near a building with a lot of elderly folks who use various mobility aids. There's a large paved area forty meters ahead with plenty of space.

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    • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

      @pelle this is near a building with a lot of elderly folks who use various mobility aids. There's a large paved area forty meters ahead with plenty of space.

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      @barometz
      are you upset at the people using mobility aids?

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      • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

        @barometz
        are you upset at the people using mobility aids?

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        @pelle no, at the people making them cross the curb (which is a hassle for them) and get into the bicycle lane (which is annoying for me).

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        • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

          @pelle no, at the people making them cross the curb (which is a hassle for them) and get into the bicycle lane (which is annoying for me).

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          @barometz
          so you're annoyed when the elderly folks on their mobility aids get in your way?

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          • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

            @barometz
            so you're annoyed when the elderly folks on their mobility aids get in your way?

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            @pelle if you're able to express a complete thought, rather than this tedious socratic approach, please do.

            In each of those pictures, the vehicles could have been parked in a way that leaves them accessible and doesn't block a sidewalk, emergency exit, or public AED for anyone.

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            • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

              @pelle if you're able to express a complete thought, rather than this tedious socratic approach, please do.

              In each of those pictures, the vehicles could have been parked in a way that leaves them accessible and doesn't block a sidewalk, emergency exit, or public AED for anyone.

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              Dette indlæg er slettet!
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              • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                @pelle if you're able to express a complete thought, rather than this tedious socratic approach, please do.

                In each of those pictures, the vehicles could have been parked in a way that leaves them accessible and doesn't block a sidewalk, emergency exit, or public AED for anyone.

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                @barometz
                thanks for perfectly illustrating the point i was trying to make 👌

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                • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                  @barometz
                  thanks for perfectly illustrating the point i was trying to make 👌

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                  @pelle I don't understand what point that is? If you're talking about the ability to park with consideration for other road users, does that contradict anything I've said?

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                  • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                    @pelle I don't understand what point that is? If you're talking about the ability to park with consideration for other road users, does that contradict anything I've said?

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                    @barometz
                    like, complaining how e-scooters are dangerous because you've seen one that's parked near an AED.

                    how many people are crushed by cars per year in the city you live in?

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                    • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                      @barometz
                      like, complaining how e-scooters are dangerous because you've seen one that's parked near an AED.

                      how many people are crushed by cars per year in the city you live in?

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                      @pelle okay, so the statement I originally objected to was

                      "i think that dunking on microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes motornormativity."

                      I see how you got from my objection to "e-scooters are dangerous" but that's not what I meant. What I mean is this: no one should park like a fucking asshole. I don't see non-rentals parked like this nearly as much, so the category is relevant.

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                      • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                        @pelle okay, so the statement I originally objected to was

                        "i think that dunking on microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes motornormativity."

                        I see how you got from my objection to "e-scooters are dangerous" but that's not what I meant. What I mean is this: no one should park like a fucking asshole. I don't see non-rentals parked like this nearly as much, so the category is relevant.

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                        @barometz
                        the thing is, the amount of being "a fucking asshole", by driving and parking a car, legally, is so disproportionately greater than what those parked bikes are doing.

                        but people are much more willing to put up with assholery from cars. that's the #motornormativity. there's interesting studies exploring that unconcious bias.

                        https://www.napier.ac.uk/research-and-innovation/research-search/outputs/motonormativity-how-social-norms-hide-a-major-public-health-hazard

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