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@filiplachert
possibly unpopular hot take: i think that dunking on #microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes #motornormativity.#escooters being dangerous or taking up space or being wasteful or whatever: cars are like that, except 1000 × more.
it's like carnists heckling vegans for eating avocados.
@pelle @filiplachert I see more rental e-bikes than cars blocking sidewalks and bicycle paths around here. People truly do not give a shit where they park those things. I've half a mind to start moving them into the street, when I find one that needs moving.
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@pelle @filiplachert I see more rental e-bikes than cars blocking sidewalks and bicycle paths around here. People truly do not give a shit where they park those things. I've half a mind to start moving them into the street, when I find one that needs moving.
@barometz "more rental e-bikes than cars blocking sidewalks"
which would be a non-issue if cars weren't blocking 90% of all city streets with operation and storage. #motornormativity -
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@barometz "more rental e-bikes than cars blocking sidewalks"
which would be a non-issue if cars weren't blocking 90% of all city streets with operation and storage. #motornormativity@pelle sure, motornormativity
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@pelle sure, motornormativity
@barometz super dangerous bikes taking up all the space lol
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@barometz super dangerous bikes taking up all the space lol
@pelle I never said that car culture doesn't suck! I just think that holding back on criticism of rental scooters and bikes is a mistake. The companies don't give a shit because they make money, and the users don't give a shit because it's not their bike.
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@pelle I never said that car culture doesn't suck! I just think that holding back on criticism of rental scooters and bikes is a mistake. The companies don't give a shit because they make money, and the users don't give a shit because it's not their bike.
@barometz
can you describe more in detail what upsets you about this situation? -
@barometz
can you describe more in detail what upsets you about this situation?@pelle this is near a building with a lot of elderly folks who use various mobility aids. There's a large paved area forty meters ahead with plenty of space.
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@pelle this is near a building with a lot of elderly folks who use various mobility aids. There's a large paved area forty meters ahead with plenty of space.
@barometz
are you upset at the people using mobility aids? -
@barometz
are you upset at the people using mobility aids?@pelle no, at the people making them cross the curb (which is a hassle for them) and get into the bicycle lane (which is annoying for me).
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@pelle no, at the people making them cross the curb (which is a hassle for them) and get into the bicycle lane (which is annoying for me).
@barometz
so you're annoyed when the elderly folks on their mobility aids get in your way? -
@barometz
so you're annoyed when the elderly folks on their mobility aids get in your way?@pelle if you're able to express a complete thought, rather than this tedious socratic approach, please do.
In each of those pictures, the vehicles could have been parked in a way that leaves them accessible and doesn't block a sidewalk, emergency exit, or public AED for anyone.
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@pelle if you're able to express a complete thought, rather than this tedious socratic approach, please do.
In each of those pictures, the vehicles could have been parked in a way that leaves them accessible and doesn't block a sidewalk, emergency exit, or public AED for anyone.
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@pelle if you're able to express a complete thought, rather than this tedious socratic approach, please do.
In each of those pictures, the vehicles could have been parked in a way that leaves them accessible and doesn't block a sidewalk, emergency exit, or public AED for anyone.
@barometz
thanks for perfectly illustrating the point i was trying to make
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@barometz
thanks for perfectly illustrating the point i was trying to make@pelle I don't understand what point that is? If you're talking about the ability to park with consideration for other road users, does that contradict anything I've said?
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@pelle I don't understand what point that is? If you're talking about the ability to park with consideration for other road users, does that contradict anything I've said?
@barometz
like, complaining how e-scooters are dangerous because you've seen one that's parked near an AED.how many people are crushed by cars per year in the city you live in?
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@barometz
like, complaining how e-scooters are dangerous because you've seen one that's parked near an AED.how many people are crushed by cars per year in the city you live in?
@pelle okay, so the statement I originally objected to was
"i think that dunking on microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes motornormativity."
I see how you got from my objection to "e-scooters are dangerous" but that's not what I meant. What I mean is this: no one should park like a fucking asshole. I don't see non-rentals parked like this nearly as much, so the category is relevant.
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@pelle okay, so the statement I originally objected to was
"i think that dunking on microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes motornormativity."
I see how you got from my objection to "e-scooters are dangerous" but that's not what I meant. What I mean is this: no one should park like a fucking asshole. I don't see non-rentals parked like this nearly as much, so the category is relevant.
@barometz
the thing is, the amount of being "a fucking asshole", by driving and parking a car, legally, is so disproportionately greater than what those parked bikes are doing.but people are much more willing to put up with assholery from cars. that's the #motornormativity. there's interesting studies exploring that unconcious bias.
