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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

    Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

    I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
    He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
    I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

    He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

    #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

    lina@tech.lgbtL release_candidate@mastodon.bsd.cafeR jorijn@toot.communityJ juliancalaby@social.treehouse.systemsJ C 12 Replies Last reply
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    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

      Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

      I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
      He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
      I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

      He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

      #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

      lina@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @stefano one of my friends also has an old car and has a bluetooth receiver in the aux port, that uses a usb cable for power. works perfectly and no cables needed 😛

      fedops@fosstodon.orgF stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS 2 Replies Last reply
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      • lina@tech.lgbtL lina@tech.lgbt

        @stefano one of my friends also has an old car and has a bluetooth receiver in the aux port, that uses a usb cable for power. works perfectly and no cables needed 😛

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        #3

        @lina same, in my 16 year old truck. And also it just drives. No reading speed signs, no automatic speedup and slowdown, no ding-ding when you get close to a line on the road, no screaming when you get close to a bush.
        @stefano

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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

          Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

          I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
          He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
          I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

          He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

          #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @stefano enshitification of cars is more painful and damaging than the internet counterpart.

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          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

            Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

            I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
            He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
            I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

            He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

            #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

            jorijn@toot.communityJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @stefano it depends per brand I suppose. My 2024 Toyota still has buttons and doesn’t have all these frustrations you shared. But I agree with your sentiment, not everything newer is better perse.

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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

              Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

              I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
              He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
              I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

              He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

              #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

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              juliancalaby@social.treehouse.systems
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @stefano And this is why I'm dreading the time when my 2010 Corolla becomes uneconomical to run and I have to replace it with a more modern car.

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              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

                Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

                I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
                He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
                I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

                He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

                #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

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                clickymcticker@hachyderm.io
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                #7

                @stefano Mine is barely newer but has the exact same features. I did plug a Bluetooth-radio adapter so my phone can wirelessly connect to the audio though. The aux is nice for the slightly better audio quality, but I don’t need it when I’m driving. It’s there for passengers who complain or want to play their own music (repairing the Bluetooth is a one minute pain that I won’t suffer twice).

                I’m genuinely sad that I can’t upgrade to an electric car primarily for this reason, among several others (data privacy).

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                • lina@tech.lgbtL lina@tech.lgbt

                  @stefano one of my friends also has an old car and has a bluetooth receiver in the aux port, that uses a usb cable for power. works perfectly and no cables needed 😛

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                  #8

                  @lina I don't use that much - so it's not a big issue to connect a cable. But that's a good idea!

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                  • fedops@fosstodon.orgF fedops@fosstodon.org

                    @lina same, in my 16 year old truck. And also it just drives. No reading speed signs, no automatic speedup and slowdown, no ding-ding when you get close to a line on the road, no screaming when you get close to a bush.
                    @stefano

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                    clickymcticker@hachyderm.io
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @fedops @lina @stefano I about had a fight with a car that had lane assistance, because there’s a lot of construction in my area. The faint old markings are still visible, and the lanes make some odd moves as you drive. Was driving a friend’s car and it kept yanking me in the wrong direction.

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                    • fedops@fosstodon.orgF fedops@fosstodon.org

                      @lina same, in my 16 year old truck. And also it just drives. No reading speed signs, no automatic speedup and slowdown, no ding-ding when you get close to a line on the road, no screaming when you get close to a bush.
                      @stefano

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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @fedops @lina yes, exactly. While I appreciate the modern safety things, I don't like all those "you can't drive as I'm driving for you". You drive or I drive.

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                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

                        Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

                        I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
                        He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
                        I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

                        He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

                        #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #11

                        @stefano
                        My 2003 Celica gets driven every six weeks or so when I need to do a "big shop". It starts immediately and off we go. I plug in my "MP3" player in to what was once the CD change cable.

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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

                          Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

                          I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
                          He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
                          I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

                          He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

                          #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

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                          stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          FYI: this: https://www.volvocars.com/uk/cars/volvo-car-ux/

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                          • jorijn@toot.communityJ jorijn@toot.community

                            @stefano it depends per brand I suppose. My 2024 Toyota still has buttons and doesn’t have all these frustrations you shared. But I agree with your sentiment, not everything newer is better perse.

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                            s1m0n4@ohai.social
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                            #13

                            @jorijn @stefano The Japanese car manufacturers are the most reliable these days, I've noticed.

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                            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

                              Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

                              I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
                              He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
                              I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

                              He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

                              #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

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                              as400@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #14

                              @stefano

                              Youngest car I have is 18 years old. I will use them until it's possible.

                              Don't know what then.

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                              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                FYI: this: https://www.volvocars.com/uk/cars/volvo-car-ux/

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                                mwl@io.mwl.io
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #15

                                @stefano ewww no

                                I would like an electric car, if I could get one without touchscreen controls.

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                                • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                                  @stefano ewww no

                                  I would like an electric car, if I could get one without touchscreen controls.

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #16

                                  @mwl exactly.
                                  The most concerning part is that the Volvo is a Diesel one. But those engines are now so complex that I think an electric car would be much more reliable.

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                                  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

                                    Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

                                    I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
                                    He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
                                    I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

                                    He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

                                    #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #17

                                    @stefano
                                    > After driving it to charge
                                    I don't own a car, so I don't really know how bad it is. But I'm surprised it allowed you to drive before update.

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                                    • C clickymcticker@hachyderm.io

                                      @fedops @lina @stefano I about had a fight with a car that had lane assistance, because there’s a lot of construction in my area. The faint old markings are still visible, and the lanes make some odd moves as you drive. Was driving a friend’s car and it kept yanking me in the wrong direction.

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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #18

                                      @ClickyMcTicker yeah. The lane assist in my car is quite good in discerning between the white (permanent) and yellow (temporary) markings. But overall the nanny mode is strong with this one...

                                      @lina @stefano

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                                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        I start my modern car (2023) that's been sitting for about ten days. The very first thing it does is demand a software update, which fails because the battery is "too low". After driving it to charge, it finally starts the update (locking me out of the car for 30 minutes, completely unusable). Once it's done, the dashboard becomes "more modern" - which basically means it's worse and cluttered with useless information.

                                        Then, I start the old car (2007) that's been parked for MONTHS. It spits out some smelly exhaust, makes a weird noise for a few seconds, and goes: "Let's go, I need to stretch my 'legs'."

                                        I take it to the car wash. A guy there with a brand-new Chinese car takes a look and asks me about it. I tell him it's from 2007.
                                        He peers inside the cabin and asks about the "infotainment" setup, since he "can't see the screen".
                                        I calmly explain that it has a CD player, it even reads MP3s, and it has an Aux-in: I just plug my phone in with a cable and that's it.

                                        He looked at me like I was an alien. Or an ancient Roman. How on earth do I survive without a screen always available, and having to actually plug in a physical cable every time? Crazy!

                                        #cars #tech #ux #enshittification #software

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                                        darkerknight@climatejustice.social
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                                        #19

                                        @stefano

                                        A friend has a new Hyundai i20 which constantly beeps at him, talks bollocks and grabs the wheel if he goes off the centre lane to avoid potholes or anything else.

                                        These new cars are being driven on failing roads, with too many baked in ridiculous 'nanny cares' interference crap that distract drivers (even if he takes his eyes off the road for a moment) and as you say totally obstructive 'updates' which are really commercial leaning piracy!

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                                        • anparker@mastodon.bsd.cafeA anparker@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          @stefano
                                          > After driving it to charge
                                          I don't own a car, so I don't really know how bad it is. But I'm surprised it allowed you to drive before update.

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #20

                                          @anparker it's a diesel car, so the battery is the 12V one. And yes, it's not a security update, so I can drive without upgrading first...

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