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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

    howking@mastodonczech.czH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #41

    @sundogplanets Is she wrong, and do you want to explain it to her just as you would explain it to a man? Don’t do that—with a woman, that’s mansplaining! 🙂

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    • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

      @sundogplanets Is she wrong, and do you want to explain it to her just as you would explain it to a man? Don’t do that—with a woman, that’s mansplaining! 🙂

      flipper@mastodonapp.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #42

      @howking
      do you feel the need to explain?

      This seems more about making yourself feel more authoritative than making the other person feel better or more informed. Maybe just ask yourself if it really matters?

      Also, for the specific example that the OP is referring to (ie. being a recognized authority on a subject and still being mansplained on that subject), your generic response doesn't really seem all that applicable.

      @sundogplanets

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
        https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

        flipper@mastodonapp.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #43

        @sundogplanets i reckon you could have it made into a cattle brand, for helping repeat offenders to remember.

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        • karen5lund@mastodon.socialK karen5lund@mastodon.social

          @sundogplanets T-shirts?

          For conferences, print a compact version that fits inside the plastic pocket you get for your conference ID and put it in the back, so you can just flip the badge to show it.

          cerstinmahlow@mastodon.acm.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #44

          @Karen5Lund That's exactly what I wanted to suggest: print it on a paper that fits badges for conferences! @sundogplanets

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          • lauraleedukeshire@cosocial.caL lauraleedukeshire@cosocial.ca

            @ives @sundogplanets Here is my suggestion. When you feel yourself about to explain something, ask her "Are you familiar with _____?". She can either tell you what she knows or ask for an explanation so, that the two of you can establish a common starting point for the next part of conversation.

            lauerhahn@sfba.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #45

            @LauraleeDukeshire @ives @sundogplanets I'm a woman and I do this all the time. In my work I'm frequently meeting people for the first time and I'm unsure how much info they have on the subject of the meeting. So often my first question is just what you said: "are you familiar with X, or would it help if I gave some background?" It works!

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
              https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

              joat@mastodon.scotJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #46

              @sundogplanets please keep a tally of how many men explain to you why it's wrong and/or you didn't understand it

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                someguy@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #47

                @sundogplanets I would like to point out that it's not uncommon for #actuallyautistic #communication to be mistaken for #mansplaining.

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                • lauerhahn@sfba.socialL lauerhahn@sfba.social

                  @LauraleeDukeshire @ives @sundogplanets I'm a woman and I do this all the time. In my work I'm frequently meeting people for the first time and I'm unsure how much info they have on the subject of the meeting. So often my first question is just what you said: "are you familiar with X, or would it help if I gave some background?" It works!

                  loops@neurodifferent.meL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #48

                  @ives @sundogplanets @lauerhahn @LauraleeDukeshire I gotta say, that phrasing particularly is really bad for me as an autistic person. All I wind up thinking is “I don’t know what you consider familiarity and if it’s the same thing I consider familiar, I wish you’d just give me the background that you think is relevant to your point, and let me filter for myself if it’s useful right now”

                  It winds up with so many meetings going poorly because there is no universal and usefully external measure of familiarity with a given topic

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                  • dadube@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #49

                    @platypusparent @ministerofimpediments @sundogplanets

                    My people! I'm sorry I happen to be a man.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                      https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                      roodie@social.vivaldi.netR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #50

                      @sundogplanets

                      How do you measure relevance of experience?Also, can you count experience in numbers? I mean, when you say "s/he has more experience" how does that compare to less experiences but with heavier weight?

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                        https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                        ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #51

                        @sundogplanets Actually, kinda useful, thanks! Will need to post this above my monitor 🤪

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                        • lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net

                          @sundogplanets @socketwench

                          Shall we crowd fund this?

                          crowbriarhexe@tech.lgbtC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #52

                          @LappenjammerDieZweite @sundogplanets @socketwench how big of an electric shock does it administer to the mansplainer when the level reaches red?

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                          • venite@mastodon.nlV venite@mastodon.nl

                            @sundogplanets we need t-shirts. On the back would be great

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                            #53

                            @venite @sundogplanets Maybe front & back, because I think they'd be more likely to read it if tits were involved.

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                            • roodie@social.vivaldi.netR roodie@social.vivaldi.net

                              @sundogplanets

                              How do you measure relevance of experience?Also, can you count experience in numbers? I mean, when you say "s/he has more experience" how does that compare to less experiences but with heavier weight?

                              femme_mal@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #54

                              @Roodie This ^ is whataboutism, an attempt to undermine the point being made, a common follow-on in mansplaining which attempts to contest the mansplained expert's legitimacy and authority.

                              *block*

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                                stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #55

                                @sundogplanets
                                I realize that misogyny leads to that kind of behavior far worse than I as a man have ever experienced. But I'm a short man, and can tell you that I've received some of that being ignored pattern also.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                  https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                                  sloanlance@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #56

                                  @sundogplanets
                                  No, don't do that. It's a bad idea and I can tell you why…

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

                                    fragmentos@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #57

                                    @sundogplanets lol

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                                    • socketwench@masto.hackers.townS socketwench@masto.hackers.town

                                      @cascheranno @sundogplanets Universe, I need one of those too.

                                      koh_kun@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #58

                                      @socketwench @cascheranno @sundogplanets when I was a kid, we'd tell each other that "the needle on our caring meter is falling," in reference to the Care Bear and just stop listening.

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                                      • someguy@beige.partyS someguy@beige.party

                                        @sundogplanets I would like to point out that it's not uncommon for #actuallyautistic #communication to be mistaken for #mansplaining.

                                        hauchvonstaub@nrw.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #59

                                        @someguy

                                        It would probably be way less common, if so many people would use an actual definition, instead of just whether it "feels like mansplaining" to them.

                                        In some contexts, I've even seen disagreement being framed as mansplaining (which it can be, but not necessarily is), because if you disagree with a woman as a man, you're "explaining your opinion/the reason why you disagree to her", which is just absurd.

                                        To many, the term seems to be misleading.

                                        1/

                                        @sundogplanets

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                                        • socketwench@masto.hackers.townS socketwench@masto.hackers.town

                                          @cascheranno @sundogplanets Universe, I need one of those too.

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                                          #60

                                          @socketwench @cascheranno @sundogplanets
                                          Universe! I like your exclamations!

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