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  3. Cis people sometimes demand #trans people rigourously define what "gender" means and explain what drives us to embody a gender other than the one assigned to us at birth.

Cis people sometimes demand #trans people rigourously define what "gender" means and explain what drives us to embody a gender other than the one assigned to us at birth.

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  • ruthoday2@chaosfem.twR ruthoday2@chaosfem.tw

    @Tattie

    Thank you for expressing this, it describes (more clearly than I could) a lot of my own experiences..

    #BoostFaveBookmarkTrifecta

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    @RuthODay2 I am honoured by the trifecta!

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    • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

      That's it. That's what I've got. Just my experience.

      No grand theory that explains everything, no intellectual justification. I can't explain this any more than you can.

      But my experience is real. And I cannot stand by if you're going to "debate" the reality of it.

      I exist. I'm right here. Look at me.
      Fin/

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      #18

      @Tattie elegantly said and true.

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      • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

        Truth is I don't know. Gender seems a complicated, vague concept to me, and I don't know why I feel the need to be a woman. It wasn't intentional. I never experienced any great internal revelation or certainty.

        Nonetheless, evidentially, I am happier and more well-balanced as a woman. Even despite the transphobia I experience.
        2/

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        #19

        @Tattie Very much so ! I have no idea “what a woman feels like” and I suspect no one else has either. All I do know is that my mind, body and soul feel right.

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        • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

          Cis people sometimes demand #trans people rigourously define what "gender" means and explain what drives us to embody a gender other than the one assigned to us at birth. If we can't do that, they say, how can they believe us?

          But trans people shouldn't have to be philosophers and psychologists all wrapped up into one to have our experiences believed. 1/

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          #20

          @Tattie I think even more fundamentally - there's been entire books and a million blogs of personal narratives, lots of them. Medical research studies, medical associations, entire international interdisciplinary organizations of people who are the world experts in gender diversity. They all say trans people are real, valid, and who they say they are. If someone isn't willing to accept those piles of evidence, then challenging an individual trans person is just hunting for some gotcha.

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          • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

            @Tattie in fact, I'm sharing a Masto Reader link to this thread on my woke family Signal chat so they can understand what dysphoria is like since it is hard to explain and you have done so in an almost poetic way.

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            #21

            @Tattie cousin told me, after reading it, that her 25 year old AMAB child thinks he might be transgender. They are currently dating a trans woman, too. Thank you for helping to open up that dialogue.

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            • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

              Cis people sometimes demand #trans people rigourously define what "gender" means and explain what drives us to embody a gender other than the one assigned to us at birth. If we can't do that, they say, how can they believe us?

              But trans people shouldn't have to be philosophers and psychologists all wrapped up into one to have our experiences believed. 1/

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              #22

              @Tattie

              I'm happier as a girl and the evidence suggests it has to do with my brain but that's all I can conclusively say

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              • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                @Tattie cousin told me, after reading it, that her 25 year old AMAB child thinks he might be transgender. They are currently dating a trans woman, too. Thank you for helping to open up that dialogue.

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                #23

                @jrdepriest oh my gosh, I'm so happy that I could be part of that!

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                • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                  Cis people sometimes demand #trans people rigourously define what "gender" means and explain what drives us to embody a gender other than the one assigned to us at birth. If we can't do that, they say, how can they believe us?

                  But trans people shouldn't have to be philosophers and psychologists all wrapped up into one to have our experiences believed. 1/

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                  #24

                  @Tattie also a cis person who has never interrogated their gender will get real defensive if you try and flip the question on them. they'll say "i just am" or something

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                  • forestine@sunny.gardenF forestine@sunny.garden

                    @Tattie also a cis person who has never interrogated their gender will get real defensive if you try and flip the question on them. they'll say "i just am" or something

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                    #25

                    @forestine @Tattie

                    Yep, funny that 😅

                    I'm CIS and have never been able to explain why I am CIS, why I am happy with my gender matching my biological sex. I just am. And I don't believe any CIS person really could. So why on earth should any trans person be expected to?

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                    • jaxvent@lgbtqia.spaceJ jaxvent@lgbtqia.space

                      @forestine @Tattie

                      Yep, funny that 😅

                      I'm CIS and have never been able to explain why I am CIS, why I am happy with my gender matching my biological sex. I just am. And I don't believe any CIS person really could. So why on earth should any trans person be expected to?

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                      #26

                      @JaxVent @Tattie yes, great points.

                      btw in case you weren't aware, cis is not an acronym for anything, but is latin, and doesn't need to be capitalised

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                      • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                        That's it. That's what I've got. Just my experience.

                        No grand theory that explains everything, no intellectual justification. I can't explain this any more than you can.

                        But my experience is real. And I cannot stand by if you're going to "debate" the reality of it.

                        I exist. I'm right here. Look at me.
                        Fin/

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                        #27

                        @Tattie Thanks! I appreciate you sharing this. It's lovely. Congrats on finding ways to feel like you.

                        I also think it's wild that cis people are expecting you to explain gender to them. My experience asking cis people to explain this whole gender thing is that either they flop around like a fish on a riverbank or they fall back on PLUTO IS A PLANET repetition of too-simple things that they learned when they were 7 and haven't thought about since.

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                        • forestine@sunny.gardenF forestine@sunny.garden

                          @JaxVent @Tattie yes, great points.

                          btw in case you weren't aware, cis is not an acronym for anything, but is latin, and doesn't need to be capitalised

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                          @forestine @Tattie

                          I knew that, so don't know why I capitalise it 🤔 Thanks for the reminder 🙂

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                          • jaxvent@lgbtqia.spaceJ jaxvent@lgbtqia.space

                            @forestine @Tattie

                            I knew that, so don't know why I capitalise it 🤔 Thanks for the reminder 🙂

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                            #29

                            @JaxVent @forestine @Tattie autocorrect uppercases it automatically for me every time and it's so annoying

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                            • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                              That's it. That's what I've got. Just my experience.

                              No grand theory that explains everything, no intellectual justification. I can't explain this any more than you can.

                              But my experience is real. And I cannot stand by if you're going to "debate" the reality of it.

                              I exist. I'm right here. Look at me.
                              Fin/

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                              #30

                              @Tattie thanks for writing this, it very much mirrors my own experience. I tried so hard to avoid transitioning. I lived as a femme out gay man for over a decade. I'm still just at the early stages and still terrified, but I've reached the end of the road of alternative options. We shouldn't have to rigorously justify our own existence, it's just unreasonable to expect this. There probably isn't a rational explanation for being trans, it's just life and it unfolds the way it does. Sending all my love 💕

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                              • xorlou@lgbtqia.spaceX xorlou@lgbtqia.space

                                @Tattie thanks for writing this, it very much mirrors my own experience. I tried so hard to avoid transitioning. I lived as a femme out gay man for over a decade. I'm still just at the early stages and still terrified, but I've reached the end of the road of alternative options. We shouldn't have to rigorously justify our own existence, it's just unreasonable to expect this. There probably isn't a rational explanation for being trans, it's just life and it unfolds the way it does. Sending all my love 💕

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                                @xorlou well done on reaching this point, it's not easy! Hope transition is bringing you joy!

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                                • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                                  That's it. That's what I've got. Just my experience.

                                  No grand theory that explains everything, no intellectual justification. I can't explain this any more than you can.

                                  But my experience is real. And I cannot stand by if you're going to "debate" the reality of it.

                                  I exist. I'm right here. Look at me.
                                  Fin/

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                                  @Tattie ❤ ❤ ❤

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                                  • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                                    Cis people sometimes demand #trans people rigourously define what "gender" means and explain what drives us to embody a gender other than the one assigned to us at birth. If we can't do that, they say, how can they believe us?

                                    But trans people shouldn't have to be philosophers and psychologists all wrapped up into one to have our experiences believed. 1/

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                                    #33

                                    @Tattie
                                    And we shouldn't have to be endocrinologists to get proper health care or lawyers to get our documents changed...

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                                    • eruonna@lgbtqia.spaceE eruonna@lgbtqia.space

                                      @Tattie
                                      And we shouldn't have to be endocrinologists to get proper health care or lawyers to get our documents changed...

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                                      #34

                                      @eruonna or ethicists, or sports scientists, or fashionistas, or anthropologists, or conflict mediators, or counsellors (oh wait)

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                                      • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                                        @xorlou well done on reaching this point, it's not easy! Hope transition is bringing you joy!

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                                        #35

                                        @Tattie thanks, yes I feel a lot of relief to finally be on HRT and I have been feeling better about myself.

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                                        • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                                          Cis people sometimes demand #trans people rigourously define what "gender" means and explain what drives us to embody a gender other than the one assigned to us at birth. If we can't do that, they say, how can they believe us?

                                          But trans people shouldn't have to be philosophers and psychologists all wrapped up into one to have our experiences believed. 1/

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                                          #36

                                          @Tattie Cis people be like "I don't make the rules" and then literally go and make the rules

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